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Fire in maternity hospital.

70 replies

KnittyNell · 22/05/2025 17:31

A huge fire has broken out in St Michael’s Maternity Hospital here in Bristol.
My son in law is currently in the Bristol Royal Infirmary which is adjacent to St Michael’s and can see it all unfolding.
I can’t imagine how awful it must be for women in labour or in theatre.
Horrible. 🙁

OP posts:
MrsPositivity1 · 22/05/2025 18:29

BeJollyEagle · 22/05/2025 18:13

But it usually takes ten mins for a c section, you can perform an emergency c-sections anywhere. It doesn’t have to be in a ward. Plenty of paramedics do this in peoples houses. But heart surgery for example you can’t do that anywhere can you? 🤔

10 minutes for a CS, you have got to be joking, it’s major surgery

Sailorstripe · 22/05/2025 18:33

Why on a thread like this is someone trying to argue a csection isn’t a big deal and that a fire alarm going off in the middle of it wouldn’t be awful? I had a csection, I would have absolutely panicked if a fire had broken out during it!

Dreichweather · 22/05/2025 18:36

Hyperbowl · 22/05/2025 18:26

Paramedics perform c-sections in peoples houses. What on earth are you talking about? The average c-section take about 45 minutes so no idea where you’ve got 10 minutes from!

Edited

Most hospitals aims for CAT1 sections to be done within 10 mins from making the decision one is needed which is normally on the ward until the baby getting out.

BeJollyEagle · 22/05/2025 18:38

Hyperbowl · 22/05/2025 18:26

Paramedics perform c-sections in peoples houses. What on earth are you talking about? The average c-section take about 45 minutes so no idea where you’ve got 10 minutes from!

Edited

Look at the my post. It happens. And the actual getting the baby out is yes only ten mins long.

Iwantasteak · 22/05/2025 18:38

Sailorstripe · 22/05/2025 18:33

Why on a thread like this is someone trying to argue a csection isn’t a big deal and that a fire alarm going off in the middle of it wouldn’t be awful? I had a csection, I would have absolutely panicked if a fire had broken out during it!

Because apparently no one is allowed to express sympathy for one group of people, without including absolutely everyone else.

Sailorstripe · 22/05/2025 18:41

BeJollyEagle · 22/05/2025 18:38

Look at the my post. It happens. And the actual getting the baby out is yes only ten mins long.

Edited

Yes but then they don’t just leave the mother cut open? There are other time sensitive things to do like deliver the placenta and make sure the uterus is contracting and stitch the woman back up?

Nicebottleofred · 22/05/2025 18:42

BeJollyEagle · 22/05/2025 18:10

But you’re saying “ maybe in labour.” You can say that about anything though. What about the patients that can’t move by themselves and are completely immobilised? Coma, full of wires hooked up to a machine etc ICU? They literally can’t do anything without help. I could at least walk when I was in labour. It’s a horrible situation but you can say it’s worse for pregnant mothers.

It’s quite literally double the amount of patients at risk though - the women and the babies are both at risk in this situation.

BeJollyEagle · 22/05/2025 18:43

Sailorstripe · 22/05/2025 18:33

Why on a thread like this is someone trying to argue a csection isn’t a big deal and that a fire alarm going off in the middle of it wouldn’t be awful? I had a csection, I would have absolutely panicked if a fire had broken out during it!

Well you’re on about me. So I’ll reply. I’m not saying and never said a c-section isn’t a big deal. Read my comments, I haven’t used any of them words. But surely it will be scary for ALL patients in hospital, not just pregnant mothers. So yes, it’ll be scary for babies, children, older people, people who can’t move, staff. Everyone! I said what I said and stand by it. My opinion. I don’t care if people don’t agree with me.

Aurorali · 22/05/2025 18:44

BeJollyEagle · 22/05/2025 18:36

Of course they can. It’s emergency surgery to safe the life of a baby.

https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/1963874/pregnant-woman-baby-C-section-killed-met-police-collision/amp

They did this because the mother was already dead. It was also in a car after a serious accident so totally different to an alive labouring woman at home. Labouring women at home who need a c-section are who blue-lighted to hospital to have a c-section by a surgeon.

TheBig50 · 22/05/2025 18:44

Iwantasteak · 22/05/2025 18:24

Paramedics do c-sections in people's houses? I've never heard of this happening.

That's because they don't.

legoplaybook · 22/05/2025 18:45

BeJollyEagle · 22/05/2025 18:38

Look at the my post. It happens. And the actual getting the baby out is yes only ten mins long.

Edited

Witnesses reporting a csection being performed on a deceased pregnant woman after a car crash is not the same as paramedics doing 10 minute csections all the time in people's homes.

littlemousebigcheese · 22/05/2025 18:46

There’s always some muppet that has to argue about everything! A fire in a maternity ward sounds horrific. It’s such a vulnerable time and a place full of tiny babies! A c section is major surgery and any labour however ‘ordinary’ is painful and stressful so I hope everyone is ok

TheBig50 · 22/05/2025 18:47

BeJollyEagle · 22/05/2025 18:43

Well you’re on about me. So I’ll reply. I’m not saying and never said a c-section isn’t a big deal. Read my comments, I haven’t used any of them words. But surely it will be scary for ALL patients in hospital, not just pregnant mothers. So yes, it’ll be scary for babies, children, older people, people who can’t move, staff. Everyone! I said what I said and stand by it. My opinion. I don’t care if people don’t agree with me.

But it's the Maternity hospital.

If there are any confused elderly or those in the middle of brain surgery then they're in the wrong place.

BoudiccaRuled · 22/05/2025 18:48

BeJollyEagle · 22/05/2025 17:57

Can imagine a fire in any hospital or part of a hospital would be horrible. Not just a maternity hospital.

Mid- late stage labour must be one of the worst possible situations to have to evacuate though. It wouldn't be possible.
See also: mid general anaesthetic surgery.
Nightmare.

PopThatBench · 22/05/2025 18:54

BeJollyEagle · 22/05/2025 18:43

Well you’re on about me. So I’ll reply. I’m not saying and never said a c-section isn’t a big deal. Read my comments, I haven’t used any of them words. But surely it will be scary for ALL patients in hospital, not just pregnant mothers. So yes, it’ll be scary for babies, children, older people, people who can’t move, staff. Everyone! I said what I said and stand by it. My opinion. I don’t care if people don’t agree with me.

The fire broke out in a maternity hospital, so I’d assume there’d be no wandering elderly patients or patients undergoing heart surgery etc.
Hence why everyone’s saying how scary it must be for the mothers and babies… in the maternity hospital that is on fire.

amooseymoomum · 22/05/2025 18:56

i would think that the babies in incubators there would be independent power supply.
be awful if you were just about to push and must be awkward if you have had a spinal block
hope all are ok

Duckyfondant · 22/05/2025 19:03

Some weird responses on this one. I'm glad everyone was ok. I can imagine it was very scary for all of the (expectant) parents

Onedayiwillsomething · 22/05/2025 19:09

amooseymoomum · 22/05/2025 18:56

i would think that the babies in incubators there would be independent power supply.
be awful if you were just about to push and must be awkward if you have had a spinal block
hope all are ok

Babies have been evacuated to the university library

Hyperbowl · 22/05/2025 19:10

BeJollyEagle · 22/05/2025 18:36

Of course they can. It’s emergency surgery to safe the life of a baby.

https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/1963874/pregnant-woman-baby-C-section-killed-met-police-collision/amp

I think doing an emergency c-section performed on a mother that’s already dead at the scene of a crash as a rare isolated case is vastly different to suggesting that paramedics are routinely or even regularly performing c-sections on living patients in their houses as it sounded like your post alluded to. I can’t find any evidence of any Paramedic performing a c-section at anyone’s house. This is major surgery and the chances of infection and haemorrhaging in a non-sterile, non-equipped environment such as a house is so high it wouldn’t be considered safe to do so in cases where the mother is living. The only other case I can see is that paramedics performed a c-section on a dying woman who in fact actually wasn’t pregnant.

KnittyNell · 22/05/2025 19:15

Thankfully the fire is now out.

OP posts:
Hyperbowl · 22/05/2025 19:23

Dreichweather · 22/05/2025 18:36

Most hospitals aims for CAT1 sections to be done within 10 mins from making the decision one is needed which is normally on the ward until the baby getting out.

The NHS states that Cat 1 C-sections a baby should be born within no longer than 30 minutes of a decision being made. I understand that it could take 10 minutes to get the baby out but that’s not the entire operation. The point the poster above made is that c-sections are usually this quick as that is in fact not often the case. The poster was being flippant and playing down the serious nature of being in the situation of having a c-section performed during a fire by saying that they can be performed safely anywhere which is nonsense. That was the point I was trying to make. Thanks for your input. ☺️

Dreichweather · 22/05/2025 19:25

Hyperbowl · 22/05/2025 19:23

The NHS states that Cat 1 C-sections a baby should be born within no longer than 30 minutes of a decision being made. I understand that it could take 10 minutes to get the baby out but that’s not the entire operation. The point the poster above made is that c-sections are usually this quick as that is in fact not often the case. The poster was being flippant and playing down the serious nature of being in the situation of having a c-section performed during a fire by saying that they can be performed safely anywhere which is nonsense. That was the point I was trying to make. Thanks for your input. ☺️

That’s true they need to actually finish the op. Both hospitals in my area aim for 10 mins for a CAT. I know someone who had a CAT 1 section and baby was out within 9 minutes.

Thinking about it I only know of 2 people who have had CAT 1 sections, in one case Mum died (reason was not brought on my labour but not caused by it) and the other the baby didn’t survive. Such awful situations and not as rare as they should be in the UK.

CapitalAtRisk · 22/05/2025 19:27

How awful. It probably started in the kitchens.

Very unsettling and worrying for all patients.

LuckysDadsHat · 22/05/2025 19:28

NICU babies will have battery back ups for all equipment. The same as when they are moved from one hospital to another for care via ambulance.

Those saying a c-section takes 10 minutes, yes it can to get the baby out, sometimes less, that doesn't include the time afterwards removing the placenta and stitching the mum up! I wouldn't want that done in a hospital car park!

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