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SATS cheating - by the Head!

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Dilemmaramma · 16/05/2025 21:16

In my DC’s final SATS exam yesterday, the headteacher was overseeing and they picked up DC’s paper, DURING the exam, flicked through it, then rubbed out one of the answers and told DC to try again. They also pointed out another wrong answer and indicated DC should re-do that question.

This is clear cut cheating, right?

YABU - don’t report it, the whole year group could get their SATS voided and they’ll be devastated
YANBU - this is appalling and the Head needs to be investigated

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Tripadvisor101 · 17/05/2025 12:55

sakuraspring · 17/05/2025 12:44

I'm afraid I think it's mainly teachers who are trying to minimise the cheating. Perhaps because they know they do it themselves?

I taught in several primary schools for a loooong time and never once saw SATs cheating. Everything to the letter. Multiple staff members in the room, no communication with pupils other than that allowed by the STA, guidance checked dozens of times to ensure absolute adherence, monitoring visits by the LA, monitoring visits by school governors, SLT supervising Y6 staff, training run for TAs supporting from other year groups etc.

I think the OP should report it as it just puts doubt on how many schools cheat. Thankfully I think it's a tiny, tiny percentage of rogue staff/heads but they should never be allowed to get away with it.

sakuraspring · 17/05/2025 13:27

With apologies to the author of the original (and my secondary school English teacher !), I think it's time we re wrote the SATs poem that gets circulated on social media, especially for teachers:

SATS don't measure sports
SATS don't measure art
SATS don't measure music
or the kindness in your heart.

SATS don't see your beauty
SATS don't know your work
SATS don't see the reasons
you were put upon this earth

SATS don't see your magic
how you make pupils smile
SATS don't see you cheer them on
as they run the morning mile

SATS don't hear their laughter
how you helped them come so far
SATS are just a tiny glimpse
of who you really are

So, wandering the test room
if the urge to cheat comes calling
remember they look up to you
dont let them see you falling

Yellowbluemonday · 17/05/2025 14:02

And if the head saw a child writing the correct answer in the wrong place …. Like writing the answer to a math problem in the working area or after the equation … but not in the answer box.

Saying “erase that … look again” … (put answer where indicated). Which in my book isn’t cheating.

Look again at the instructions.

sure there is cheating and there is also a child’s impression of what happens in situation where they are not privy to detail. In child world, It can only be cheating but very likely it’s something else entirely & OP child thinks they know it all.

Jessie3 · 17/05/2025 14:07

Yellowbluemonday · 17/05/2025 14:02

And if the head saw a child writing the correct answer in the wrong place …. Like writing the answer to a math problem in the working area or after the equation … but not in the answer box.

Saying “erase that … look again” … (put answer where indicated). Which in my book isn’t cheating.

Look again at the instructions.

sure there is cheating and there is also a child’s impression of what happens in situation where they are not privy to detail. In child world, It can only be cheating but very likely it’s something else entirely & OP child thinks they know it all.

Doesn’t matter what your (ridiculous) ‘book’ says. It’s maladministration. Categorically. No shades of meaning. Not allowed.

Jesus. 🙄

Dilemmaramma · 17/05/2025 14:09

Yellowbluemonday · 17/05/2025 14:02

And if the head saw a child writing the correct answer in the wrong place …. Like writing the answer to a math problem in the working area or after the equation … but not in the answer box.

Saying “erase that … look again” … (put answer where indicated). Which in my book isn’t cheating.

Look again at the instructions.

sure there is cheating and there is also a child’s impression of what happens in situation where they are not privy to detail. In child world, It can only be cheating but very likely it’s something else entirely & OP child thinks they know it all.

The question was putting decimals and fractions in order of magnitude. The head rubbed out three of the numbers in DC’s answer and said ‘they’re in completely the wrong order’. But left the first number in the sequence, which was correct - so it’s not a case of DC having gone from biggest to smallest instead of smallest to biggest (ie. just needing to re-check the instructions). DC had got it wrong.

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Azdcgbjml · 17/05/2025 14:10

Rabhhhd · 17/05/2025 10:17

What happens if a school gets poor results? (In a world where there isn't cheating)

When it happened at the school.i worked at it was part of a chain of events that included a bad ofsted report and the head losing their job. It wasn't the only contributory factor but it was a major one. Bad results can be pretty devastating for a school.

Straightjacketsandroses · 17/05/2025 14:10

Soontobe60 · 16/05/2025 22:42

There is no ‘pass or fail’ in SATs.

A scaled score of 100 is the child meeting age related expectations; below that is ‘working towards’. So no, this isn’t strictly a pass or fail, but the inference is there.

Jessie3 · 17/05/2025 14:11

Surely nobody can be so stupid as to think this instruction does not apply here?

SATS cheating - by the Head!
Jessie3 · 17/05/2025 14:13

🙄 Delay in posting the image. I’ll paste directly. It’s not difficult to understand.

You must ensure that nothing you say or do during the tests could be interpreted as giving pupils an advantage – for example, indicating that an answer is correct or incorrect, or suggesting the pupil look at an answer again.

noworklifebalance · 17/05/2025 14:16

Not read the full thread but genuinely very shocked by some of the responses questioning whether it is cheating, why report it if it is helping your child etc.

It is cheating and above all sets a terrible terrible example to all the children who KNOW the head teacher (the head teacher, FFS) helped a pupil cheat on an exam. This is someone who is meant to model leadership, good morals etc to the children and generally be a role model.

It also put the OP’s child in an awful position and, in turn, the OP - no doubt some of the other children will tell their parents who in turn may ask the OP about it, feel the OP’s child had an unfair advantage (they wouldn’t be wrong).

Geez, what was the HT thinking?!

Dilemmaramma · 17/05/2025 14:16

@Jessie3Yeah, that’s pretty unambiguous

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golemmings · 17/05/2025 14:18

KIlliePieMyOhMy · 16/05/2025 21:31

Sorry SATS are used as predictions for GCSEs that take place 5 years later.
That's crazy, if true.

Dds was predicted good GCSEs on the basis of the sats she didn't sit due to COVID. She's spent 5 yes if high school failing to achieve expected grades and has hated every year if high school and us convinced she can't study/sit exams.

It's also well recognised in education that moderated schools perform less well than unmoderated schools, so clearly cheating is rife.

Jessie3 · 17/05/2025 14:27

It's also well recognised in education that moderated schools perform less well than unmoderated schools, so clearly cheating is rife.

Evidence please.

RareGoalsVerge · 17/05/2025 14:27

Straightjacketsandroses · 17/05/2025 14:10

A scaled score of 100 is the child meeting age related expectations; below that is ‘working towards’. So no, this isn’t strictly a pass or fail, but the inference is there.

Only if you consider the 50% of the population who fall below the average line to be "failures"

Orangesinthebag · 17/05/2025 14:30

Joyunlimited · 17/05/2025 10:14

So do you think blatant cheating by the Head (and involving the child in the cheating, not to mention the other children and possibly adults who saw the cheating but who, presumably, the Head is relying on to be complicit and keep quiet) should just be ignored?

Edited

Yes I do to be honest

SATs should be abolished, they're pointless exams that put undue pressure on schools and children and lead teachers & Heads to this kind of behaviour.

GCSEs or A levels and I would have a different view entirely but this is a massive storm in a teacup - a couple of marks on a SATS paper? No doubt the child concerned would have passed without those marks anyway.

Azdcgbjml · 17/05/2025 14:33

RareGoalsVerge · 17/05/2025 14:27

Only if you consider the 50% of the population who fall below the average line to be "failures"

It's an expected standard not an average. Far more than 50% achieve the expected standard.

Rabhhhd · 17/05/2025 14:34

Azdcgbjml · 17/05/2025 14:10

When it happened at the school.i worked at it was part of a chain of events that included a bad ofsted report and the head losing their job. It wasn't the only contributory factor but it was a major one. Bad results can be pretty devastating for a school.

Even if the children at the school just happen to be less academic?

neverbeenskiing · 17/05/2025 14:36

JustSawJohnny · 16/05/2025 23:52

Yes, having a chat with parents she likely knows about something their kids have likely told them already is pure scandal 🙄

As an ex teacher, I'm firmly of the opinion that if any careers were to be ended over this, they'd be both self-caused and deserved.

I agree, it's deserved if the allegations are actually true, hence why I'm suggesting reporting it officially so it can be thoroughly investigated. I don't think gossiping to other parents about it is helpful or appropriate though.

noworklifebalance · 17/05/2025 14:36

Orangesinthebag · 17/05/2025 14:30

Yes I do to be honest

SATs should be abolished, they're pointless exams that put undue pressure on schools and children and lead teachers & Heads to this kind of behaviour.

GCSEs or A levels and I would have a different view entirely but this is a massive storm in a teacup - a couple of marks on a SATS paper? No doubt the child concerned would have passed without those marks anyway.

That’s irrelevant.
HT was completely unprofessional and has put OP and her child in a difficult position, which is unacceptable.

Gustavo77 · 17/05/2025 14:37

Dilemmaramma · 16/05/2025 21:26

What a bizarre comment.

You haven't denied it. I hope it is, otherwise I feel sorry for you

Dilemmaramma · 17/05/2025 14:37

Have drafted a letter, at this stage just to help get it out of my head. I don’t know yet if I’ll send it. DH has pointed out the ‘casting a shadow’ paragraph is laying it on a bit thick, so if this does get sent, will edit that part!

I’m sure this will trigger the ‘shrug it off’ PPs, but interested in any constructive feedback re. whether this could do the job of getting the head to seriously reconsider their conduct in future…

“I am writing to formally raise a serious concern about an incident during my daughter’s recent SATs exams which I believe constitutes clear misconduct and a breach of national test administration rules.

My child reported that, during the test, you personally intervened by picking up her paper, rubbed out one of her answers, and told her to try again. You also drew her attention to another incorrect response, encouraging her to amend it, while the exam was still in progress.

Whatever the intention, this constitutes a clear breach of national test guidelines. The statutory guidance around permissible support is explicit: adults must not indicate whether an answer is right or wrong, and may not guide or prompt pupils towards correct responses. What took place is, by any fair reading, a case of inappropriate assistance.

While I recognise that schools are under enormous pressure to demonstrate progress and deliver strong results, such pressures cannot justify actions that amount to cheating. I am extremely concerned by what this models to the children. If a child were to receive help from a peer during an exam, they would rightly face consequences. When a figure of moral and academic authority appears to break the rules, it risks teaching young people that cheating is acceptable. This is damaging and confusing, especially at an age when children are developing a strong sense of fairness and integrity. It risks normalising cheating, diminishing trust, and confusing their understanding of right and wrong.

This incident has cast a shadow over the final weeks of my daughter’s primary school experience. What should have been a proud moment — the culmination of her own hard work — is now clouded by doubt. She will be left questioning the authenticity of her results, and the experience has been embarrassing and upsetting, particularly given that it took place in full view of her peers. The emotional impact of this cannot be underestimated.

The wider implications are just as troubling. This kind of interference doesn’t just affect individual test outcomes—it can follow children for years. Inflated results lead to inflated secondary targets, which can result in students constantly falling short of unrealistic benchmarks. If children are assigned artificially high GCSE targets based on inflated SATs results, they may struggle unnecessarily, lose confidence, and spend years under the shadow of unrealistic expectations. Secondary teachers, in turn, are unfairly judged for failing to meet targets that were never reflective of genuine ability in the first place.

I also note that this kind of incident rarely occurs in isolation. If this has happened to my child, it is highly likely it has happened to others.

I recognise the intense pressure primary schools face, particularly around performance metrics. I want to be clear that I have no desire to see careers harmed or individuals publicly criticised. I appreciate how hard staff work to give our children the best education possible. However, I do feel that this situation demands accountability and reassurance.

I would like to know what steps you will take to ensure that assessment protocols are upheld in future and that the integrity of school-led testing remains beyond reproach.

Specifically, I would appreciate:
A response acknowledging the seriousness of this incident;
An outline of what steps the school will take to ensure full compliance with national test protocols in future;
A reassurance that this will not be repeated;
Any reflections you can offer on how the school will rebuild trust with this cohort of pupils and parents.

I hope you understand that I write this with a genuine interest in the wellbeing of the school community, the integrity of the education system, and the moral development of our children.

I would welcome a written response and am available for a meeting if you consider it helpful.

Thank you for your attention to this important matter.”

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sakuraspring · 17/05/2025 14:39

Yellowbluemonday · 17/05/2025 14:02

And if the head saw a child writing the correct answer in the wrong place …. Like writing the answer to a math problem in the working area or after the equation … but not in the answer box.

Saying “erase that … look again” … (put answer where indicated). Which in my book isn’t cheating.

Look again at the instructions.

sure there is cheating and there is also a child’s impression of what happens in situation where they are not privy to detail. In child world, It can only be cheating but very likely it’s something else entirely & OP child thinks they know it all.

Are you always so dismissive of 11 year olds?

They are capable of all sorts of amazing things by 11. And clearly some of them have a better understanding of right and wrong than their teachers

Joyunlimited · 17/05/2025 14:40

Orangesinthebag · 17/05/2025 14:30

Yes I do to be honest

SATs should be abolished, they're pointless exams that put undue pressure on schools and children and lead teachers & Heads to this kind of behaviour.

GCSEs or A levels and I would have a different view entirely but this is a massive storm in a teacup - a couple of marks on a SATS paper? No doubt the child concerned would have passed without those marks anyway.

So a headteacher teaching a child that cheating in an exam is acceptable is absolutely fine! What a strange outlook on life.

I am no fan of SATs, but whether or not they should be abolished is completely beside the point. If we all decided to only follow the rules or laws we agreed with, our society would not be a very pleasant place.

You have absolutely no evidence for saying "no doubt the child would have passed without those marks anyway". On the contrary, I would expect that the child was borderline Working Towards/Expected or Expected/Greater Depth, or I doubt whether the HT would have been so concerned or taken the risk.

Apollo365 · 17/05/2025 14:41

Melancholyflower · 17/05/2025 11:29

Do you mean that for every four children there was an teacher? In a 3 form entry school that would require 23 members of staff, which is obviously not possible for most schools.

Indeed, one form entry here though so appreciate not the norm