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WIBU to pull DS out of school?

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GreenShoes12 · 16/05/2025 10:31

DS14, Y9, suspected ASD but no dx yet – we’re still on the waiting list. Used to manage OK in primary and even Y7, but the last year or so it’s gone massively downhill. The older the other kids get, the more obvious the gap is. They’re into phones, TikTok, dating, swearing, makeup – and DS is still into Fireman Sam, CBeebies, building things with Lego and train sets. Still plays with his teddies and talks to them. He’s just not in that teenage world at all and it shows.

He’s now refusing school most days. His attendance is shockingly low and I’m being threatened with fines. I can’t leave him home alone – he has no idea about danger, can’t work a microwave, would open the door to anyone. So every day he’s not in, I’m missing work, and work are losing patience too. I’m getting it from all angles.

He got home yesterday shaken up. Group of lads in his year – been bothering him on and off – started chanting “Fireman freak” at him and “does mummy still wipe your bum?” because he had a Fireman Sam keyring on his bag. One of them grabbed his bag and tipped all his stuff on the floor. Someone stomped on his water bottle and laughed. DS just stood there frozen. He said he wanted to run but couldn’t move. That’s happened before too – last month someone filmed him talking to himself in the playground and shared it on Snapchat. He didn’t even know until someone in another class told him people were laughing at it.

Another time he was trying to line up his pens on his desk and a kid knocked them off on purpose – teacher told him off for “being dramatic” when he got upset. They don’t get it. He’s not badly behaved, he just shuts down or lashes out when it’s too much – he’s thrown his book across the room before, or shouted suddenly. But it’s frustration and overload, not aggression. He doesn’t understand the rules like the others do. He thinks they’re all just being “mean for fun” and doesn’t really get social stuff.

He’s also been self harming for months. I only found out last week. Hid it really well – long sleeves, said he scratched himself on bushes etc. I feel like a terrible mum not spotting it sooner. School didn’t pick it up either – it only came out when another kid mentioned it and it got flagged.

He’s miserable, and I’m at breaking point too. I’m getting no help. School say without a dx there’s little they can do. CAMHS referral is in but it’s been months already and we’ve heard nothing. They’re putting it all on us to manage, but I’m drowning. DS doesn’t want to go in. He says he hates it, it makes him feel “small and stupid”.

Would I be totally unreasonable to just pull him out until we get proper support? Maybe look at online learning or something. I know it’s not ideal but I feel like leaving him in there is just making everything worse. Anyone done similar without a dx in place? I’ve got no idea what I’m doing and feel totally alone in this.

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YourLoyalPlumOP · 16/05/2025 11:21

GreenShoes12 · 16/05/2025 10:31

DS14, Y9, suspected ASD but no dx yet – we’re still on the waiting list. Used to manage OK in primary and even Y7, but the last year or so it’s gone massively downhill. The older the other kids get, the more obvious the gap is. They’re into phones, TikTok, dating, swearing, makeup – and DS is still into Fireman Sam, CBeebies, building things with Lego and train sets. Still plays with his teddies and talks to them. He’s just not in that teenage world at all and it shows.

He’s now refusing school most days. His attendance is shockingly low and I’m being threatened with fines. I can’t leave him home alone – he has no idea about danger, can’t work a microwave, would open the door to anyone. So every day he’s not in, I’m missing work, and work are losing patience too. I’m getting it from all angles.

He got home yesterday shaken up. Group of lads in his year – been bothering him on and off – started chanting “Fireman freak” at him and “does mummy still wipe your bum?” because he had a Fireman Sam keyring on his bag. One of them grabbed his bag and tipped all his stuff on the floor. Someone stomped on his water bottle and laughed. DS just stood there frozen. He said he wanted to run but couldn’t move. That’s happened before too – last month someone filmed him talking to himself in the playground and shared it on Snapchat. He didn’t even know until someone in another class told him people were laughing at it.

Another time he was trying to line up his pens on his desk and a kid knocked them off on purpose – teacher told him off for “being dramatic” when he got upset. They don’t get it. He’s not badly behaved, he just shuts down or lashes out when it’s too much – he’s thrown his book across the room before, or shouted suddenly. But it’s frustration and overload, not aggression. He doesn’t understand the rules like the others do. He thinks they’re all just being “mean for fun” and doesn’t really get social stuff.

He’s also been self harming for months. I only found out last week. Hid it really well – long sleeves, said he scratched himself on bushes etc. I feel like a terrible mum not spotting it sooner. School didn’t pick it up either – it only came out when another kid mentioned it and it got flagged.

He’s miserable, and I’m at breaking point too. I’m getting no help. School say without a dx there’s little they can do. CAMHS referral is in but it’s been months already and we’ve heard nothing. They’re putting it all on us to manage, but I’m drowning. DS doesn’t want to go in. He says he hates it, it makes him feel “small and stupid”.

Would I be totally unreasonable to just pull him out until we get proper support? Maybe look at online learning or something. I know it’s not ideal but I feel like leaving him in there is just making everything worse. Anyone done similar without a dx in place? I’ve got no idea what I’m doing and feel totally alone in this.

I pulled my kids out of school

you can always redo exams (though ours are taking GCSE). But you can never redo mental health

thstd the mantra j live with.

MellowPinkDeer · 16/05/2025 11:21

I wouldn’t take him out of school but I wouldn’t force him to go either. Can you do a private assessment? An EHCP will be helpful later but it’s not going to be in pace to help you to GCSE ( in most places) so you need to get the school on board. There are many things they can do. Have you met with them?

if you take him out you are choosing to and the local authority won’t have to help you. Keep him on role, send him when he is able. Contact the education access team. Keep chasing CAMHS

ChocolatePodge · 16/05/2025 12:02

Not unreasonable at all, sorry he's not being supported x

perpetualplatespinning · 16/05/2025 12:11

Rather than deregister and EHE, I would remain in the system. That doesn’t mean DS has to attend. He clearly isn’t able to and it isn’t safe for him to. If DS remains in the system but can’t attend school, the LA has a duty to ensure he still receives a suitable full time education. IPSEA has a model letter you can use to request this provision. Post back on MN if the LA refuses to provide provision or delays or ignores you. This doesn’t require an EHCP or a diagnosis. Whereas if you EHE, the LA will say you are making suitable alternative arrangements thereby relieving them of this duty. If you EHE it is also easier for others to sweep DS’s needs under the carpet.

Alongside this, request an EHCNA. You don’t need a diagnosis. IPSEA also has a model letter you can use for this. You may have to appeal, but an EHCP can provide far more provision, including therapeutic provision, than most parents can afford to fund themselves.

WasThatACorner · 16/05/2025 12:17

YourLoyalPlumOP · 16/05/2025 11:21

I pulled my kids out of school

you can always redo exams (though ours are taking GCSE). But you can never redo mental health

thstd the mantra j live with.

100% agree with this.

We took our youngest out of school in September. The change in him was almost instant, he is calm and happy now. Home educating is going really well, we have had to redo a lot of foundational stuff that he had clearly not understood in the years he had been in school and now he is working on the next academic years level.

It helps that I have experience as TA and worked for years with people with LD / challenging behaviour but there are loads of resources and groups around if you are willing to look for them.

Good luck OP.

shouldhavedonethisearlier · 16/05/2025 12:20

Have pm'd you.

Mauvehoodie · 16/05/2025 12:32

If it's in any way possible, I'd take him out of school like a shot especially given the self harm. It's not your fault you didn't notice, please don't beat yourself up Flowers, it sounds like you're doing everything you possibly can.

Do you think he'd engage with online learning of some sort? Can you work from home or do you have any family who could supervise him?

Others have given some great advice about staying in the system/not deregistering etc that could be really helpful.

Ablondiebutagoody · 16/05/2025 12:55

Police. Your son is being targeted because he has a disability. That's hate crime. Don't let the school get away with inaction.

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