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To think that feminism today is mostly about convenience, not principle?

10 replies

MyTipsyMintFox · 13/05/2025 19:09

It feels like feminism nowadays often means “I’ll take empowerment when it’s easy and traditional perks when it suits me.” Hard conversations about responsibility, sacrifice or systemic change seem to get buried under lifestyle slogans. AIBU to think a lot of modern feminism is more about convenience than any deep commitment to principle?

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financialmuddle · 13/05/2025 23:14

Utter bollocks. Your post says way more about you and your insecurities than it does about modern feminism.

Ladamesansmerci · 13/05/2025 23:21

I agree to a degree.

I think there is a lot of 'girl boss' type feminism currently, which dilutes what feminism is about imo. I also think the voices of more marginalised women are drowned out by 'academic' style feminism, a lot of which comes from young, white, middle class women at university.

Usernamen · 13/05/2025 23:30

I’m a woman in my 30s and I don’t know many women my age who even call themselves feminists? I stand on the side of ‘TERFs’ and strongly support women’s rights in the whole trans debate, but that’s the only argument of late that has inspired me to take any interest in feminism. Everything else is performative, infantilising bollocks.

AnneLovesGilbert · 13/05/2025 23:33

What’s your feminism like?

Talipesmum · 13/05/2025 23:36

I think there are a lot of different people who all think about feminism very differently and they are all “doing” feminism differently. There’s no one “feminism nowadays” common mind.

eta - while it’s easier to pick out common themes and trends in the past, there will always have been different types of feminism coexisting, arguing, criticising each other - because not all women are the same or want the same things.

Skipthisbit · 14/05/2025 00:09

Feminism has completely lost its way. I do not know anyone who associates with the term - most actively don’t want to be associated with the utterly entitled nonsense it’s become. Feminism used to be about breaking down barriers and fighting for equality but now it’s just some embarrassing entitled princess movement.

Special consideration expected for periods, pregnancy, perimenopause and menopause so essentially from 14 to 55 women are victims to hormones and biology and need to be granted unlimited considerations/ special treatment usually with the expectation that someone either a man or society pays for it. It’s quite frankly embarrassing.

i truly despair and understand why polls and studies show the vast majority of women are desperate to distance themselves from feminism because it’s become absolutely bonkers. It’s not about equality anymore; it about “special princess status” to do whatever I want with someone else to pay for it. I despair.

Usernamen · 14/05/2025 12:09

Skipthisbit · 14/05/2025 00:09

Feminism has completely lost its way. I do not know anyone who associates with the term - most actively don’t want to be associated with the utterly entitled nonsense it’s become. Feminism used to be about breaking down barriers and fighting for equality but now it’s just some embarrassing entitled princess movement.

Special consideration expected for periods, pregnancy, perimenopause and menopause so essentially from 14 to 55 women are victims to hormones and biology and need to be granted unlimited considerations/ special treatment usually with the expectation that someone either a man or society pays for it. It’s quite frankly embarrassing.

i truly despair and understand why polls and studies show the vast majority of women are desperate to distance themselves from feminism because it’s become absolutely bonkers. It’s not about equality anymore; it about “special princess status” to do whatever I want with someone else to pay for it. I despair.

Well said 👏

SilverButton · 14/05/2025 12:12

Can you give some examples OP?

TasWair · 14/05/2025 12:17

Usernamen · 13/05/2025 23:30

I’m a woman in my 30s and I don’t know many women my age who even call themselves feminists? I stand on the side of ‘TERFs’ and strongly support women’s rights in the whole trans debate, but that’s the only argument of late that has inspired me to take any interest in feminism. Everything else is performative, infantilising bollocks.

So conversations around how the cost of living crisis and the way poverty disproportionately affects women don't inspire you to take an interest? Or Roe vs Wade in the USA? Or the increase in sexual violence against women? Or the fact that women are now expected to have a career and take on the lion's share of homemaking and parenting?

ShiningStar3 · 14/05/2025 23:10

No, you're completely right. Liberal feminism is throwing women under the bus by pandering to porn-consumers, prostitute-users, autogynephiles and the beauty industry among other inherently unfeminist things. The patriarchy has attempted to coopt feminism and repackage it into something pink, sparkly and palatable to men. Sorry you got shit on immediately after posting, the kneejerk reactions only show how deeply some of us swallow the koolaid.

Edit: I identify as a radical feminist for these reasons.

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