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Are my dinners rubbish?

636 replies

Sowhatbigdeal · 10/05/2025 13:38

Been told they are

Here’s an example of an average week, more or less:

Monday (I work at 6, so do something simple)

Feta & red onion salad with new potatoes & rice

Tuesday

Pasta with jar pesto (working today)

Wednesday

Dh to do omlette/eggs on toast with salad (working today)

Thursday

Salmon, salad, new potatoes

Friday

Homemade chilli with rice, nachos & dips

Saturday

Takeaway

Sunday

Roast dinner/homemade lasagne

Are they?

OP posts:
soupyspoon · 10/05/2025 19:37

Nina1013 · 10/05/2025 19:27

I have a genuine question. No sarcasm or passive aggression - I really do want to know.

Who comes up with/where is the evidence for the 30 types a week where coffee and tea and chocolate count for half of a ‘type’? That just sounds genuinely bonkers…

Due to many serious allergies, we do always cook from scratch and do eat a mountain of fruit and veg, and lean protein (some of the few things I’m not allergic to…), so I’m not questioning this because it’s something I couldn’t imagine getting close to. It just sounds a bit…strange?

Yes exactly. Of course its right to have a wide variety of food stuffs and food types, that is the best way to get the most range of digestable and processable nutrients in you. But when the theory stipulates a number, 30 - well why not 32, why not 25, why not 55? It falls apart

And ascribing this or that to a point, half point, this point, that point, no point, view point, well of course its a nonsense from that perspective, that was my point!

And yes its great if you have the palate, its great if you have the money and accessibility to access this variety, its great if you have the time and inclination to access this variety. Not everyone does, not everyone wants to and so I find it tiresome that in response to a good enough food routine of example dinners, a poster is judged or berated for 'not eating 30 plants a week'.

Not on.

periperimenonochips · 10/05/2025 19:38

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soupyspoon · 10/05/2025 19:38

Anyway Im having a caramel wafer now, so whats that, wheat from the wafer = plant, chocolate = plant, caramel made from sugar = plant

Great stuff!

Girasoli · 10/05/2025 19:39

I like pizzoccheri...wholemeal pasta with potatoes, cabbage and cheese (can you tell I'm from the North of Italy?)

We had pesto pasta tonight...I do half pesto, half cream cheese to make it creamier and then chuck in what ever vegetables I fancy, green beans today.

PhilomenaPunk · 10/05/2025 19:40

ChaiLarious · 10/05/2025 19:27

This must be why life admin takes so long. I mean it must be hours of work planning a meal that includes 30 plant types and no UPF's.

Exactly. I wish more women would cut themselves some slack. Every year it’s something else designed to make us feel like failures. If it’s not UPFs it’s protein, if it’s not protein it’s carbs etc etc etc. It’s exhausting.

And as someone from the Mediterranean I’m really enjoying all the posters saying salad and pasta with pesto are not nutritionally dense foods.

And the audacity of serving rice AND potatoes?! I should tell my mother she has been poisoning us with her delicious stews (that - shock horror - contain potatoes) with rice on the side. I’m sure she will hang her head in shame.

ChaiLarious · 10/05/2025 19:41

soupyspoon · 10/05/2025 19:38

Anyway Im having a caramel wafer now, so whats that, wheat from the wafer = plant, chocolate = plant, caramel made from sugar = plant

Great stuff!

Gin and tonic for me so one for the juniper berries and a bonus one for the cucumber I've put in it. We are smashing this!

PhilomenaPunk · 10/05/2025 19:42

Emanresuunknown · 10/05/2025 19:29

Eggs on toast /beans on toast are both going to be quite low calorie for the main meal of the day and I wouldn't consider either a proper meal for a 7-yr old. I'd only do something like that for a lighter lunch. And if she's having sch dinners those are tiny portions and poor quality so to then come home to just egg on toast isn't enough for a growing child.

Well I weight train and am built like a brick shithouse and some nights I will have three scrambled eggs with beans on toast. Very delicious, filling and decent macros. I’m sure a seven year old will be absolutely fine.

Tulipsunflower · 10/05/2025 19:43

Sowhatbigdeal · 10/05/2025 13:40

Are they healthy/nutritious enough for a child

Of course they are!

soupyspoon · 10/05/2025 19:44

ChaiLarious · 10/05/2025 19:41

Gin and tonic for me so one for the juniper berries and a bonus one for the cucumber I've put in it. We are smashing this!

Quinine in the tonic = plant. Come on, you have to be accurate about this!

ChaiLarious · 10/05/2025 19:47

soupyspoon · 10/05/2025 19:44

Quinine in the tonic = plant. Come on, you have to be accurate about this!

How could I forget that! I think I've hit 30 today alone now. McDonalds for the rest of next week it is then.

Arancia · 10/05/2025 19:48

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soupyspoon · 10/05/2025 19:50

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Goodness me so rude. There is more than enough protein in the meals listed.

lovemycbf · 10/05/2025 19:52

I think I’d add more protein to Mondays salad as it’s sounds bland and potatoes and rice is an odd combination too
again with the pesto it doesn’t take much to pan cook some salmon fillets to go with it

Arancia · 10/05/2025 19:52

soupyspoon · 10/05/2025 19:50

Goodness me so rude. There is more than enough protein in the meals listed.

No, I just respond in the same tone people address me.

And what are your credentials to determine that these meals contain "more than enough protein"? Seriously? You think a couple of eggs and a measly piece of salmon consumed over a WEEK is enough protein?

Bjorkdidit · 10/05/2025 19:56

Arancia · 10/05/2025 19:52

No, I just respond in the same tone people address me.

And what are your credentials to determine that these meals contain "more than enough protein"? Seriously? You think a couple of eggs and a measly piece of salmon consumed over a WEEK is enough protein?

Plus the chilli, roast, protein in other parts of the meals and also the unmentioned breakfast and lunch foods.

Apart from dire poverty or eating disorders there's probably no-one in the UK who doesn't get enough protein.

soupyspoon · 10/05/2025 19:58

Arancia · 10/05/2025 19:52

No, I just respond in the same tone people address me.

And what are your credentials to determine that these meals contain "more than enough protein"? Seriously? You think a couple of eggs and a measly piece of salmon consumed over a WEEK is enough protein?

Well you say why you think it isnt. No need for the caps either

This isnt this child's whole diet.

A measly piece of salmon, lets say its as measly as 50g of raw salmon, has 10g of protein in it. Her requirements for her age are around 19g a day. So half just in that one item, on one plate, for one meal.

One is assuming OP doesnt just serve her daughter this alone per day.

PhilomenaPunk · 10/05/2025 19:58

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Hit a nerve have I? And it’s always best not to assume things, such as your assumption that the OP will not be feeding protein-rich breakfasts or lunches.

How about not revelling in being so dismissive to the OP and, as I said, getting a grip?

PhilomenaPunk · 10/05/2025 20:00

soupyspoon · 10/05/2025 19:58

Well you say why you think it isnt. No need for the caps either

This isnt this child's whole diet.

A measly piece of salmon, lets say its as measly as 50g of raw salmon, has 10g of protein in it. Her requirements for her age are around 19g a day. So half just in that one item, on one plate, for one meal.

One is assuming OP doesnt just serve her daughter this alone per day.

Thank you. So many posters on Mumsnet seem to thoroughly enjoy tearing OPs down and assuming things with completely limited information.

Tinseltuttifruitti · 10/05/2025 20:01

soupyspoon · 10/05/2025 19:37

Yes exactly. Of course its right to have a wide variety of food stuffs and food types, that is the best way to get the most range of digestable and processable nutrients in you. But when the theory stipulates a number, 30 - well why not 32, why not 25, why not 55? It falls apart

And ascribing this or that to a point, half point, this point, that point, no point, view point, well of course its a nonsense from that perspective, that was my point!

And yes its great if you have the palate, its great if you have the money and accessibility to access this variety, its great if you have the time and inclination to access this variety. Not everyone does, not everyone wants to and so I find it tiresome that in response to a good enough food routine of example dinners, a poster is judged or berated for 'not eating 30 plants a week'.

Not on.

Tim Spector and the guys from Zoe have stated that there's no scientific basis for 30, it's just a number they chose they felt would encourage people to eat a variety of foods.

@Nina1013 they have identified gut bacteria that solely feeds on coffee for example so there is at least some science there. Otherwise it's just about encouraging people to eat different plants, I agree it's gimmicky.

PhilomenaPunk · 10/05/2025 20:02

Bjorkdidit · 10/05/2025 19:56

Plus the chilli, roast, protein in other parts of the meals and also the unmentioned breakfast and lunch foods.

Apart from dire poverty or eating disorders there's probably no-one in the UK who doesn't get enough protein.

But she’s serving the chilli with rice AND nachos! She’s practically a murderer!

soupyspoon · 10/05/2025 20:03

Tinseltuttifruitti · 10/05/2025 20:01

Tim Spector and the guys from Zoe have stated that there's no scientific basis for 30, it's just a number they chose they felt would encourage people to eat a variety of foods.

@Nina1013 they have identified gut bacteria that solely feeds on coffee for example so there is at least some science there. Otherwise it's just about encouraging people to eat different plants, I agree it's gimmicky.

Yes exactly very comparable to the 10k steps.

Bonus points for anyone who can say why its 10k without looking it up....!

faerietales · 10/05/2025 20:11

Emanresuunknown · 10/05/2025 19:23

But it's not unrealistic for many people, I'm sorry. Those are pretty basic simple fruits and veg - generally all those are cheap, readily available. I didn't include any more exotic stuff like squash, or mango, pineapple, expensive berries like blueberries.
If you think that's wildly unrealistic then perhaps you are quite an unusually selective eater and that's your issue, it doesn't make it 'unrealistic for many'.

A typical UK family might eat meals like shepherds pie, roast dinner with veg, a tomato pasta dish with some Mediterranean veg and herbs in the sauce, maybe a stir fry with veg in. All of those are pretty normal family dinners which would easily fit the sort of ingredients I suggested.

I’m not denying that they’re basic foods - I just don’t think most people buy the huge selection of stuff that you’re suggesting they do.

At the moment in our house we have carrots, broccoli, peppers, cucumbers, tomatoes, strawberries, grapes and lettuce, plus frozen sweetcorn and peas. Maybe two herbs in the cupboard, plus tea and coffee. That’s it.

We don’t buy anything like the huge variety of foods that people seem to buy on a regular basis on MN.

faerietales · 10/05/2025 20:14

soupyspoon · 10/05/2025 19:37

Yes exactly. Of course its right to have a wide variety of food stuffs and food types, that is the best way to get the most range of digestable and processable nutrients in you. But when the theory stipulates a number, 30 - well why not 32, why not 25, why not 55? It falls apart

And ascribing this or that to a point, half point, this point, that point, no point, view point, well of course its a nonsense from that perspective, that was my point!

And yes its great if you have the palate, its great if you have the money and accessibility to access this variety, its great if you have the time and inclination to access this variety. Not everyone does, not everyone wants to and so I find it tiresome that in response to a good enough food routine of example dinners, a poster is judged or berated for 'not eating 30 plants a week'.

Not on.

Exactly. Let’s stop berating other women for not subscribing to whatever current fad is currently taking over.

I have no desire to buy or cook 30 plants a week. It’s great that some people do but it doesn’t make them better people.

Nina1013 · 10/05/2025 20:18

faerietales · 10/05/2025 20:14

Exactly. Let’s stop berating other women for not subscribing to whatever current fad is currently taking over.

I have no desire to buy or cook 30 plants a week. It’s great that some people do but it doesn’t make them better people.

In our house we are old school. 5 different solid fruit and veg a day, and the world keeps turning!

soupyspoon · 10/05/2025 20:20

Oh I forgot pomegranate

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