Feeling exploited, AIBU?

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Home based remote worker on min wage, asked (read expected) to stand at an exhibition.
Gave up a Sunday, almost 4 hours train travel each way.
Company paid for a budget hotel, train tickets, 1 course dinner and my time standing on the exhibition floor.
They won’t pay my travel time and no TOIL offered for giving up day off.
Was I expecting too much to be paid £12.21ph for my travel hours?
Does anyone have any useful insight? ACAS sketchy and my contract doesn’t mention it.

Push back.

Offer to do it for TOIL and travel time. They will either say no or come back with a counter offer. If they say no, there's no further need for communication.

Too late! It’s been done. I’ve never worked anywhere where it wasn’t standard and documented policy before.

Not many people are paid for commuting. It's not usual for people to expect payment for their commute.

As for TOIL, as long as you got paid for the time working, what's the TOIL for? As I understand it, you get TOIL instead of payment, not alongside payment?

Not that I agree with any of this, just saying how I thought it worked.

I don't know anyone paid for commuting unless it is part of some fancy corporate relocation thing

We were always given toil
i thought travel time had to be included somehow as it wasn’t a normal commute ?

travel to and from what is contractually classed as your place of work is legally classed as travel time. Therefore if your contract states your home is your place of work then they should pay you for your time whilst travelling

Commute is travel to your nornal place of work
since it’s a hotel stay that isn’t a normal commute

you wouldnt expect to be paid for giving up your sunday to travel 4 hours and stay overnight in prep to do a days work?

Well i would have discussed it all before I agreed to it, I would then have known what I would be paid and worked out if it was worth it or not

I would expect no more than what I was informed

You didn’t clarify your payment before agreeing?

I would have expected to have been paid for what I agreed to be paid for

be definition the journey was not a commute

The fact that work paid the tickets kind of shows that

Your home is your regular place of work, therefore this journey is not classed as commuting and I'd expect to be paid, yes. The law does seem pretty sketchy and if it's not in your contract then not sure of what you can do; but this is skanky behaviour of them and yes exploitative.

This 100%👆👆

https://www.acas.org.uk/working-time-rules/working-time-for-someone-who-travels-for-their-job

You were not travelling to your fixed place of work

if you had travelled to your office and then onto the event it would explicitly be covered in this link as travel that should be paid for - beyond nasty if they don’t pay because you didn’t go to the office and I doubt it would stand up in court but the hassle of going to court over this would be horrific

OP should be paid for travel time - 8 hours doing something that only benefits the company

Hindsight! I had declined and than was coerced into going and didn’t get chance to clarify.

Hindsight! I had declined and than was coerced into going and didn’t get chance to clarify.

It wasn’t my commute. It was an overnight stay for an exhibition and conference.

Or quit 🤣

I would push back that the travel time was not your usual commute and that as you are paid minimum wage then your additional working hours of traveling to and from need to be covered.

is there anything in your contract about attending these events?

I don’t have an office, I’m a fully remote worker.