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When to give up on a friendship

16 replies

Twinhearts · 06/05/2025 22:59

I have a very close friend of about 15 years who has a pattern of ghosting me, pretty much every four years. We have a lot in common, always have a good laugh, and have shared so much for so many years, usually being in near daily contact, exchanging gifts, celebrating each other's children, etc. And I am always caught by complete surprise when she disappears on me.

The first time it happened she reached out after many, many months saying she thought I had ghosted her, which I found really confusing as it was very much the other way around. The second time was many years later, when she simply disappeared within days of me losing a very close family member, which completely shattered me. She didn't check in, but rather ghosted me when I needed a friend the most. It was pain on top of pain. About a year later, she reached out and said she had been going through some (non major) things at the time and hadn't wanted to burden me, which I found to be a lame excuse as I have only ever been a willing ear and supportive friend and the events she described were more of the usual things that were going on in her life. But I let it pass, didn't guilt her, even though it took me about another year to feel completely comfortable with her again and even then, it was always in the back of my mind that if something bad ever happened in my life again, I couldn't count on her to be there for me.

Sure enough, about three years later, she started becoming distant. Stopped responding or would take weeks to respond rather than same day or next day, but then would suddenly suggest a get together. I had to reach out more and more to get a response from her, and when after months of this I asked if everything was okay, she said she was just really busy, which I knew to be a polite excuse. She also became strangely competitive at this time, when in the past we have only ever been happy for each other, lifted each other up, etc. She stopped asking about anything in my life, even when I mentioned I had an update on something she would have been really curious about in the past. She would literally ignore other things I shared in messages by never replying or acknowledging. Stopped asking how holidays were. She started comparing her children to mine, even when she knew I was struggling with some things from mine, making hers out to be perfect by comparison rather than listening. It really hurt my feelings but more than anything, it felt almost hostile and confusing coming from her of all people. This went on for a full year, until I finally decided to stop reaching out multiple times for a response. My last text (which was in response to one of hers, lighthearted, normal topics for us) went unanswered, and that was months ago. I thought about sending another one asking if everything was okay, but I've already done this, and again, she has also been acting a bit unpleasant toward me in addition to phasing out.

After three rounds of this, I am reluctant to ever open the door should she come knocking again, which she might, but at the same time, it makes me sad to give up on someone I've known so well for so long. The trust is completely broken at this point. I would never treat her this way and I've always shown her I am there for her if she ever needs me. When is enough enough? AIBU to think it's time to let go for good?

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SelinaPlace · 06/05/2025 23:02

I’m not sure I understand what has broken your ‘trust’. Do you require a certain minimum level of engagement or something, otherwise the person is untrustworthy? I think longtime, valuable friendships have space for ebbs and flows. I certainly have times when I’m less available.

wrongthinker · 06/05/2025 23:07

Pretty sure a "certain minimal level of engagement" would be not ignoring your friend who is dealing with a bereavement.

OP, it sounds like this friendship has run its course. But I don't think you need to make a definite move. If she does come back you can say you feel like the friendship no longer works for you. Otherwise just say nothing and let her go.

SelinaPlace · 06/05/2025 23:12

wrongthinker · 06/05/2025 23:07

Pretty sure a "certain minimal level of engagement" would be not ignoring your friend who is dealing with a bereavement.

OP, it sounds like this friendship has run its course. But I don't think you need to make a definite move. If she does come back you can say you feel like the friendship no longer works for you. Otherwise just say nothing and let her go.

British people are dreadful at dealing with death.

WonderingWanda · 06/05/2025 23:18

It sounds to me like the issues might be hers. Maybe some jealously or a need to be the centre of attention / win / be the best.

Poonu · 06/05/2025 23:24

What's time got to do with it? She sounds awful. Let her Go. Throw this one back. Raise your bar. Rinse repeat. Etc

Ratisshortforratthew · 06/05/2025 23:32

SelinaPlace · 06/05/2025 23:12

British people are dreadful at dealing with death.

Oh come on. People can make a choice how they deal with anything and hiding behind a silly generalisation isn’t an excuse. OP she sounds a shitty friend, I’d ghost her back but permanently

wrongthinker · 07/05/2025 07:29

SelinaPlace · 06/05/2025 23:12

British people are dreadful at dealing with death.

You come across like you have zero compassion and/or very low expectations. If I was going through a bereavement and a supposedly good friend ignored and said nothing, they would no longer be a friend.

Or did you just want to stick the boot in to OP?

SelinaPlace · 07/05/2025 07:38

wrongthinker · 07/05/2025 07:29

You come across like you have zero compassion and/or very low expectations. If I was going through a bereavement and a supposedly good friend ignored and said nothing, they would no longer be a friend.

Or did you just want to stick the boot in to OP?

I’m not British, and I’m fine with supporting friends through bereavements. But based on 25 plus years of living and working in different parts of the UK, I have so often seen instances of friends and acquaintances crossing the road to avoid someone bereaved because they ‘don’t know what to say’ and workplaces where no one says anything whatsoever to someone jist returned from a parent’s funeral that I don’t think it’s a baseless generalisation.

Gallowayan · 07/05/2025 07:41

I would say now is a good time to give up on this friendship.

TheSlantedOwl · 07/05/2025 07:58

I’m sorry OP, she’s a terrible friend and isn’t worth hanging on to or pursuing any more.

Notsosure1 · 07/05/2025 08:03

I’d block her and delete from social media. You’ve known her a long time but women know abusive husbands for a long time - it doesn’t give them license to treat them like crap and they still need to get rid.

I understand if you’ve invested so much time and energy into a friendship you don’t want to just give up on it - but that’s what she is doing continuously. She’s like a cat with a mouse, picking you up and giving you the hope of a real friendship then dropping you to leave you feeling hurt and confused until she wants to ‘play’ with you again. Ask yourself why she wants to do that. It doesn’t sound like she’s just self-absorbed and oblivious (bad enough) she sounds like she actually wants to hurt you and cause you upset. It’s also a power thing, every time you respond and try to go back to how it was you are conforming that she is the one in control.

It sounds like you’ve been a very good friend to her - the kind that you hoped she’d show herself to be. But she isn’t. It’s not just a case of her being hopeless at replying - or just a flake when it comes to being there to show the same level of support you’d show her - she is actively making you unhappy, deliberately.

The bottom line is - you can’t make people care about you.

It is not a friendship and is making you more unhappy than not. You are wasting time being upset by it when you could be doing other things to make you happy.

As I said, there are two options I think you should do -

Block her number and contacts with you on all social media and forget about her. You will then be able to draw a line under her and move on and in time the pain will decrease and you will wonder why you wasted so much time flogging a dead horse in the first place, not to mention the headspace.

or

COMPLETELY ghost her. By that I mean absolutely no replies when she finally comes calling back looking for support/ an ego boost/ a scapegoat. This will give her the much-needed experience of what it has been like for you. You can read her ‘reasons’ (excuses) for lack of contact but do not reply to any of them or you may cave. You will be tempted to give her one last chance to be a friend if she sounds like she needs it but just remember the numerous chances she’s had to be a friend to you, and hasn’t been when you needed her the most. Leaving her on read will certainly make her think, but it will also give her the opportunity to try to pull you back through manipulation.

It will also give her the opportunity to block and delete you of course. This may not affect you and confirm what an emotionally immature parasite she is, but if you suspect it will damage you and be the final nail in the coffin I’d get in there first and block her.

But I really think you need to kiss this friendship situation goodbye, however you do it. Good luck.

wrongthinker · 07/05/2025 08:47

SelinaPlace · 07/05/2025 07:38

I’m not British, and I’m fine with supporting friends through bereavements. But based on 25 plus years of living and working in different parts of the UK, I have so often seen instances of friends and acquaintances crossing the road to avoid someone bereaved because they ‘don’t know what to say’ and workplaces where no one says anything whatsoever to someone jist returned from a parent’s funeral that I don’t think it’s a baseless generalisation.

And yet you also think the OP is unreasonable to expect any support from her friend. And attempt to shame her for having an expectation that her friends will support her. So seems like you're the one who has nothing to say and no support to give when it comes to bereavement.

WildflowerConstellations · 07/05/2025 08:52

I think she was a rubbish friend for not checking in when you were bereaved.

However, in general it sounds like she's someone who isn't great at keeping in touch when she's busy or stressed, and you're taking that personally.

Notknots · 07/05/2025 09:04

wrongthinker · 07/05/2025 08:47

And yet you also think the OP is unreasonable to expect any support from her friend. And attempt to shame her for having an expectation that her friends will support her. So seems like you're the one who has nothing to say and no support to give when it comes to bereavement.

I took @SelinaPlace comment to be against the friend, that the friend wasn't being supportive when needed by the op when the op had a bereavement.

Maybe because I've had a similar "friend" who ghosted me the day I told her a close family member has died. I was so shocked and confused I never heard from her again!

Op I would not be able to sustain another cycle of this by your "friend". Having fun with someone is not the same as a proper friendship. She sounds very jealous of you and will only continue to hurt you.
You sound lovely op and I imagine a wonderful person to be around, which attracts her back to you, but she is so jealous of you it eventually gets the better of her.

Spend your time and energy on people who properly love and care for you 💐

Ladyluckinred · 07/05/2025 09:52

SelinaPlace · 06/05/2025 23:12

British people are dreadful at dealing with death.

I don’t disagree entirely, however working in bereavement, there are many other cultures who can approach death with little compassion/understanding. Whether that’s minimising the impact of losing someone or giving certain timeframes one must grieve in, (or else ‘the deceased will not be able to rest’). Discomfort with death is not unique to one culture or country.

With that said, it’s completely inappropriate to ignore someone full stop. We all have busy periods, but years without contact?! OP, I would not contact her, if she contacts you in the future say something like “unless we can have a truly open and honest conversation, I cannot see how our friendship can move forward”. I think it’s time to let go, sometimes people will not value us as much as we value them, unfortunately.

Twinhearts · 07/05/2025 13:17

Thank you all for your thoughts on this matter. I really appreciate all of the responses. My gut told me to stop contacting her, and this has confirmed that.

What's interesting is that she really has only one other close friend--and this woman treats her the way my "friend" treats me!

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