To think that there is a misunderstanding about social housing.

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On social media, lots of people assume that people in social / council housing are getting a free house and don’t work.

i grew up in social housing: my dad worked from age 15 to 65.

my brothers have worked since they were 16 and both live in social housing.

its not “free housing”: it’s rented, affordable accommodation.

@Trickydelivery so did you end up with a mega work ethic and must do well educationally ethic? I did and I must admit it’s worked out well for me. Sadly my Dad did not see the house I now live on its on one of the most expensive roads in the town I live in.

It's not always cheap. My 2 bed housing association flat is £1300 pm

Is that cheap for the area?

I'm really confused . Why is mortgage/house buyers and renting from social housing being compared to to each other surely they are completely different.

I'm seeing comments about home owners having to pay for their own repairs. But social housing tenants don't have to . Surely home owners and people with mortgage knew this before buying the house?

And how much would a private rented flat of same size and location cost? If that's in London, that's cheap for a 2 bed flat.

In zone 3/4 London I paid that much for a poorly maintained 1 bed 10 years ago.

I think they were being compared as both have a secure tenancy as long as pay rent/mortgage. And some social housing can be handed down between family members I think, like an owned property.
In some ways social housing is probably nearer to having a mortgage than private rental in terms of security.

Yes, of course we knew that! It's a comment, in the same way as social housing tenants sometimes moan about having to provide own flooring, white goods etc, when they knew that when applied for social housing. I am forever seeing messages on our local Facebook page asking for free fridges etc as 'just got given my first place after waiting for years, I can't afford white goods and the stingy council didn't give me them"

I think it depends. in zone 3/4 private 2 beds are 1700-1800

My dd is in a 2 bed housing association the rent is 665 a month it's a new build.

The old council stock 2 beds are around 450- 500 a month.

Ah yes I get that makes sense.

Social housing tenants have sometimes come from hostels/temp accommodation so don't have white goods to bring with them, and they often don't have the money either.

Really? I thought we were all for kicking tenants OUT of social housing when they progress in employment. Because there is no way i would be able to afford a house here no matter what job i got. So the only option would still be social housing And you only get bigger social housinf IF YOU HAVE KIDS So make your mind up.

Yep And im willing to bet they are the ones telling the stepmums on here "well you knew he had kids before you got with him" 😊

And you knew you would have to pay for your own repairs before buying. Right?

When those who own houses which are too small to meet their needs but can't afford to buy a larger property ask for advice in here, they are advised to move to a cheaper area.
If you can't afford to live where you live, whether thats buying or renting, you move to an area which you can afford to live in. Yes, that may mean moving jobs, school etc, but that's what we had to do.

So if you can't afford a place to live where you are now, 'no matter what job you do' I presume you must live in a very expensive area?

Im in North Essex I live in a flat with my disabled 75 year old husband My dad died seven months ago so my elderly mum is on her own Am i supposed to move to another part of the country and let my one sibling deal with it all? Then have people on here moaning about their taxes being put up to pay for social care cos us "lazy family members" cant travel 200 miles to care for elderly relatives. I see you

Dont need to worry about school

YOU CHOSE TO HAVE KIDS!!!!!

Yes, thats what i said. I knew i had to pay for it, and thats what i do. I dont moan about it, or ask for someone else to pay for it.

Its in our tenancy agreement that we cant touch certain things when they go wrong like the boiler. That has to be fixed by whatever cowboy they choose to send a professional
Or would you rather tenants started tinkering with it and caused an explosion

It's a bit different with social housing. If a bigger property is needed. Children of opposite sex can share until they are 10. So that's 10 years before they can even go on the list for over crowding. Once your on it depending on the area it can take many years.

They can't just move to a cheaper area because other councils do not have a duty to house them.

The only way to get to another area is through a house swap. Or to give up social housing. And privately rent. Which then puts them at risk of eviction in the future. Where they will likely end up homless in temporary accommodation for years.

The person stated that they couldn't afford to private rent in their area, so I queried whether they would be able to afford private rent in a different area. As many people move to be able to afford to buy or privately rent if they can't afford their current area

I wasn't referring to maintenance, I was referring to people moving into council properties and moaning there is no flooring or white goods or furniture.

Yes I did, I'm not quite sure how that is relevant? We chose to have them, and we support them fully despite both DH and I having a disability.

Social housing tenants are absolved of any personal responsibility and homeowners must be grateful for enormous mortgages and a lifetime of maintenance bills. Ti's the mumsnet way.

I know that situation all too well. My Dad has dementia and my mum also disabled. They will pay for carers themselves, not social care.

My brother couldnt afford to live where he was in London once he adopted 2 children, so he moved to a cheaper area, so yes, it will be on me.

the only ones im seeing absolved of any responsiblity are Kensington and Chelsea council and the TMO. Unless you can name the person who has been charged/sitting in prison for Grenfell

So many of these posts are almost dripping with jealousy …