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Friendship is a two way street

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EverydayItGirl · 02/05/2025 23:20

Hello to all the moms out there! 🤗

I recently had a friendly discussion with someone, and I’d love to hear your thoughts on the topic. (Just to be clear: this isn’t meant to attack anyone. I’m trying to be as respectful as possible, so there’s no need for insults or harsh replies.) 🤗

Did you manage to keep your friendships after becoming a parent?

I’ve been reading a lot of threads here on Mumsnet and Reddit where new parents, both moms and dads, talk about feeling isolated and lonely. But honestly, I’ve noticed that many of them seem to voluntarily distance themselves from their friends. Of course, having a child changes your perspective and eats up your time — that’s totally understandable. But often, it feels like new parents expect everyone else to adjust to them, while making very few adjustments themselves.

Suddenly, the childfree friend is expected to be the one who’s always flexible — visiting at nap time, hanging out at the park, eating meals early, or always meeting closer to the parents’ home.

But why is it considered unreasonable to expect new parents to make some small compromises too? Why the almost military-level strictness around routines and nap times? Surely, a child won’t suffer long-term effects from eating a little later or skipping 15 minutes of sleep once in a while. Why can’t one parent stay home while the other catches up with a friend? Why can’t a swim class be skipped just once so a parent can socialize?

I completely get that friendships aren’t always 50/50 — life ebbs and flows — but expecting someone to give 99% while you give 1% isn’t sustainable or fair.

And what about simple communication? Parenting is exhausting, yes, but is replying to a single message really too much to ask?

The advice often given to new parents is: “You need to meet other mom/dad friends.” But why not try to maintain the old ones too? Do we really want our friendships to be based solely on whether we all have kids? Isn’t it more enriching — and more genuine — to stay connected to people with whom we share years of memories, shared experiences, and meaningful conversations, even if they chose not to have children?

I also struggle with the idea that friendships are “for a season, for a reason, for a lifetime.” If we truly care about our friends — if they’ve been there through important parts of our lives — shouldn’t we make an effort to keep those connections alive for a lifetime? Why is it socially acceptable to let those bonds fade because of starting a family?

Some people say, “Real friends will still be there in 6 or 7 years.” But let’s be honest — expecting someone to wait around quietly, only to be welcomed back into your life when it's convenient, doesn’t feel like true friendship. "Low-maintenance friendships" too often seem to mean “low-effort friendships.” Real, lasting friendships require at least some level of stability and mutual care. Relationships aren’t like cars you can stop and start at will.

I think I speak for many people when I say it hurts when people I care about stop putting effort into our friendship. I try — again and again — but eventually, if the effort isn’t mutual, I let go. And I won’t put myself in a position to be hurt again by letting someone re-enter my life when they’ve already shown me I’m not important enough. Hurt me once, shame on you. Hurt me twice, shame on me.

[CONCLUSION or TLDR]: Am I being unreasonable for thinking that friendship should remain a two-way street — even when someone becomes a new mom or dad? Shouldn’t maintaining meaningful relationships be relevant for everyone, not just a convenience when time allows?

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CountryQueen · 02/05/2025 23:26

AI, that you?

HamYard · 02/05/2025 23:28

That was a lot of words.

stayathomer · 02/05/2025 23:31

You’re just in a different place to them op, try and support them where you can

LunaTheCat · 02/05/2025 23:41

I have been unable to have children. I went through the grief of that when all my friends had babies and young children.
Now I am 60 and all my friends have grandchildren so there is another grief.
i get that children are gorgeous and completely overwhelming.
I have gone through a period of feeling sad recently and over-whelmed and it has been hard.

Mandylovescandy · 03/05/2025 00:20

I never thought I would be that person but I am. I did make an effort while on mat leave with DC1 but once DC2 arrived and I started back at work full time it was just totally hectic. DP works away so I do a lot and was exhausted and I think had some PND/PPA and then DC1 got diagnosed with ASD (not that the diagnosis itself made a difference particularly but DC1 behaviours require a bit more effort from me and mean I am less comfortable with babysitters) and I have mostly lost who I am other than parenting and feel I don't really have much interesting to offer friends. Totally see why it is disappointing from the other side

TheHerboriste · 03/05/2025 00:31

Our entire social circle is childfree. It’s just not been worth the effort to maintain ties with parents.

And as we like to travel, it’s more fun to be friends with people who aren’t tied down, skint and distracted.

Barely anyone in our extended family had kids, either. So we’re generally in sync.

TheHerboriste · 03/05/2025 00:32

stayathomer · 02/05/2025 23:31

You’re just in a different place to them op, try and support them where you can

Not worth the effort. It’s never reciprocated.

sellotapechicken · 03/05/2025 00:42

Mandylovescandy · 03/05/2025 00:20

I never thought I would be that person but I am. I did make an effort while on mat leave with DC1 but once DC2 arrived and I started back at work full time it was just totally hectic. DP works away so I do a lot and was exhausted and I think had some PND/PPA and then DC1 got diagnosed with ASD (not that the diagnosis itself made a difference particularly but DC1 behaviours require a bit more effort from me and mean I am less comfortable with babysitters) and I have mostly lost who I am other than parenting and feel I don't really have much interesting to offer friends. Totally see why it is disappointing from the other side

Do you still have any friends ?

EmeraldRoulette · 03/05/2025 00:43

@TheHerboriste you've been lucky there

BlondiePortz · 03/05/2025 00:44

stayathomer · 02/05/2025 23:31

You’re just in a different place to them op, try and support them where you can

Why does the support have to work one way? Som people seem to change overnight and except once thry have a child everything revolves around them and the world has to stop for the child

I still did the normal things I did before having a child same as after, no not everything was 100% the same but normal life still went on

And i wonder if this contributes to relationship breakdowns if their whole life is their child ir will create other issues

Sure do it if it makes them happy but then don't complain about it all afterwards

stayathomer · 03/05/2025 06:08

Just realised I commented and hit post before I’d made my point, but then fell asleep😂 On the way to work and have forgotten what I’d said anyway so 😅🙈

olympicsrock · 03/05/2025 06:26

Life changes when you have kids . Some friends without kids will be happy to see you with your kids , some with only want to spend their free time doing adult centred activities without the additional work /prescence of children.
Whether or not you see these people depends on how flexible the new parent is willing to be.

I have kept some old friends and made some new mum friends who understand the challenges I face and want to spend time jointly with kids. I still see the child free friends but less often.

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