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Feel bullied and gaslit by my employer -- sorry, it's long

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SquidProCrow · 01/05/2025 18:25

Just looking for a sense check. It doesn't feel right and it honestly feels like constructive dismissal territory but I'm happy to be told I'm BU but I'm starting to feel like I'm in an abusive relationship with my boss.

I'm in a senior role at a company, I was promoted six months ago. I've been here for a decade and this is my third promotion. In theory I'm at the highest level of the UK branch of the company with four others at my level. In practice I'm very much the junior partner. I was told earlier this year initially I wasn't allowed any annual leave until October so I would have worked without a single day off from January to October. (I subsequently managed to negotiate out of this but it took about two weeks of me begging). All the other people at my level can choose when they go on holiday.

It's a hard-charging environment and admittedly its high pay. I'm not afraid of hard work but I increasingly feel I'm being set up to fail.

On Monday I was hauled in by my boss for a "chat" about how things were going. What followed was a very nasty bollocking centring around the following offenses:

  • Sending what she described as a "panicky" and unprofessional email: I'd emailed her earlier in the day: an internal email with four or five junior team members in copy asking her, in a respectful tone, if she was also attending a meeting later in the week or if I should plan to lead it. She told me that this "sent the junior team members into disarray" in confusion. She claimed this had already been agreed internally. It hadn't and our client was asking both of us for clarity on this point. She went on to say I had an "aura of chaos" around me which was unsettling to junior staff. I know from talking to others on my team that they feel this way about her.
  • Shouted at me for having failed to print out a meeting agenda: I'd asked my assistant to do it much earlier as my access to the printer wasn't working. She hadn't replied for several hours and eventually brought the documents in a minute or so after the meeting started. It was an internal meeting, so just me and her.
  • Asking me what my plan was for a meeting which was taking place at our office at a time she knew I was overseas for. She is leading the meeting and I have never been slated to attend it. She shouted at me when I pointed out I wouldn't be attending and then asked my assistant (behind my back and without telling me) to arrange for me to lead it remotely when she's aware that I am not going to be in the country and will be attending a conference.
  • Told me to lead the implementation of a project in the UK which was initiated at a meeting in the US which I wasn't invited to (I'm the only senior person not to have attended the meeting and I wasn't told it was going ahead until three days before it happened even though it involved people from several of my client teams being taken out of action.
  • Told me that requesting another senior person sit in on a meeting when I had a clash with a pre-planned medical appointment was "grossly unprofessional" and I had to learn to behave like a senior person.
  • She told me I don't work hard enough. On an average day I am logged on from 6am and I rarely finish work before 9pm. I work almost every weekend day.

I'm utterly exhausted. I can never put my phone down and I get jittery and anxious at home when I'm away from my computer for more than about half an hour. I never have a full lunch break - I rarely eat lunch before about 4pm. For financial reasons I can't leave at the moment. Obviously I'm looking for other jobs but at my level and in my industry this isn't straightforward. I just feel so bullied and disrespected and my self-esteem is on the floor and I'm starting to hate my boss. I have to pick myself up, smile and thank her for her constructive feedback in about a week because any pushback is interpreted as "failure to receive feedback". I just want to run away and jump in a river. Someone tell me it gets better.

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user1471497170 · 01/05/2025 19:29

I'm so sorry to hear you're going through this. Unfortunately this happens in some companies and it is very difficult to challenge and 'prove' what the boss is doing. My husband went through this with a new boss after working happily for the company for 17 years. It can destroy your MH so best to try and prioritise your own wellbeing and get out as soon as you can. It is disgusting that people are able to behave like this at work and get away with it.

curious79 · 01/05/2025 19:34

SquidProCrow · 01/05/2025 18:30

Our HR is overseas in a country where employment rights are zero. So no.

Funnily enough this could end up counting in your favour because my experience is that when HR is abroad, they seriously muck up when it comes to handling issues in this country.

I suppose you need to know what you want your end game to be before you decide on what next. Certainly it sounds like your boss is being unreasonable and bullying you, unless there’s some shred of truth that you are chaotic. I don’t know.

You said you’re paid well so go and seek some advice. This lady is meant to be very good. Pay for a couple of hours of her time.
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SquidProCrow · 01/05/2025 19:59

@curious79

Funnily enough this could end up counting in your favour because my experience is that when HR is abroad, they seriously muck up when it comes to handling issues in this country.

Thank you!

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Barney16 · 01/05/2025 20:07

Smile sweetly, think of the money and plan your exit. If you definitely decide you are going to leave you may feel better just because you have made that decision. Be careful with the emails. Sometimes things are better discussed on the phone.

CriticalOverthinking · 01/05/2025 20:08

BrightLightTonight · 01/05/2025 19:29

Some of the examples you have given do sound like you are a little unprofessional and disorganised.

1 - why cc junior team members about whether or nor she is leading a meeting, that should have been discussed between the two if you.
2 - not having the agenda to a meeting before it took place is bad, regardless that you are implying it is your assistant’s fault
3 - running projects at short notice is pretty standard
4 - the person who stood in for you at a meeting, were they fully briefed, and why arrange a meeting when you knew you weren’t available?

For a senior role, these are quite basic planning issues.

This was my thought. These examples come across as something a high level person would know not to do, the CCing of 5 (5!) junior people to ask your boss if they’re going to a meeting is really odd.

if it’s mostly things like basic planning maybe that is the issue, you can be great at the rest of the job but if the basics aren’t there it can cause issues.

is everyone else working similar hours?

AquaPeer · 01/05/2025 20:19

CriticalOverthinking · 01/05/2025 20:08

This was my thought. These examples come across as something a high level person would know not to do, the CCing of 5 (5!) junior people to ask your boss if they’re going to a meeting is really odd.

if it’s mostly things like basic planning maybe that is the issue, you can be great at the rest of the job but if the basics aren’t there it can cause issues.

is everyone else working similar hours?

It may not be the case but it reads as someone in a first senior role which is very, very hard to adjust to and these errors are given a short shrift because they are seen as a lack of leadership.

I might be wrong OP and I am also sure you do an amazing job, but leadership is a big step and it’s not uncommon for it not to work out as an internal promotion. It didn’t in. My case, I had to leave and start again with those mistakes and lessons learned under my belt.

tramtracks · 01/05/2025 20:41

The money is not worth it. I would get my ducks in order for a compromise agreement to be negotiated. Try for them halving your notice period/ non compete in exchange for not filing a constructive dismissal claim.
The location if your HR department makes no difference to your employment rights in the uk - although I’m not entirely sure of your contract terms and location etc etc move on - it won’t get better - it’s not a good fit for you. Don’t get caught up into thinking like a victim though - stand proud and chalk it up to experience.

Coolasfeck · 01/05/2025 20:48

The best thing you can do is take back some level of control by applying for other jobs. Taking that proactive step will automatically make you feel better, then it’s just a waiting game until one lands.

There’s no point confronting someone like this. I know this because I’m looking for a new role to get away from my line manager who is the executive for our division. I’m 2nd in command and have been in role for over a year but she’s unhinged and it’s not worth it.

She calls herself ‘collaborative’ and asks for ‘feedback’ but good luck to anyone who takes this at face value because she’s controlling and defensive to a level I’ve never seen before. She also steals ideas and once made a tit of herself as she presented my idea externally but clearly didn’t understand the detail so looked stupid.

It’s partly my fault as I was so energised about this opportunity that when I was applying I didn’t properly listen to someone who made a couple of gentle low key throwaway comments on ‘rumours’ (I wish they had just been clear and open!).

SquidProCrow · 01/05/2025 20:58

@Coolasfeck

The best thing you can do is take back some level of control by applying for other jobs. Taking that proactive step will automatically make you feel better, then it’s just a waiting game until one lands.

That's how I'm approaching it at the moment. I'm just about able to tolerate it and eat the required humble pie. But the longer it goes on the more I lose respect for myself.

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