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Are antidepressants warranted in this scenario?

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Feelinglow1 · 30/04/2025 13:01

I've suffered first with primary infertility for years, then we had our wonderful DS. Tried for a second, first I was very chilled about it but as the years have gone on I've become increasingly desperate/ depressed about it. I'm immensely grateful for the one we have but I'm at the point where if anyone just announces a pregnancy I'm breaking down in tears. I tried therapy, sports, being busy, the works- I feel down and guilty and somehow less than, and I just cannot help it. Add to this I'm so anxious about my one precious child and if he gets as much as a fever I'm panicking. Im generally very anxious but this whole thing has made it so much worse. I sometimes get heart palpitations and stomach upset from the worrying. AIBU to get antidepressants for this?

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whippy1981 · 03/05/2025 14:26

Espresso25 · 03/05/2025 14:17

I also mentioned up thread I’ve been raped but carry on like that gives you ultimate authority over the interpretation of absolutely everyone’s mental health. 👏🏻

Nope you didn't lose me. I responded to you but sadly you didn't like me agreeing with you and that kind of stung a bit didn't it?

Nope I haven't and yet here you are doing just that! Irony!

My belief is that everyone can follow whichever model they believe in:

You believe in the medical model
I believe in the trauma informed model.
Some believe in the genetic model
Some believe in the social model etc.

So nope I am not giving me authority and have clearly said that further up the thread which you clearly ignored. I am however, entitled to talk about that model of mental health. Just because you never actually read around the different models and research into them all and believed a common myth then that is on you not me.

Do you say that to others who believe in the medical model and bleat on about a chemical imbalance that was debunked decades ago? I bet you do not, if not, why not?

Espresso25 · 03/05/2025 14:34

It would sting if I thought there was any substance in what youre saying, but there’s just huge amounts of projection, an absence of empathy and an absence of logic. So it doesn’t “sting” - your posts are becoming more scrambled and that isn’t conducive to a sensible discussion. I like sensible, intelligent discussions and I have partaken in whatever this is for long enough, it’s boring me now.

whippy1981 · 03/05/2025 15:52

Espresso25 · 03/05/2025 14:34

It would sting if I thought there was any substance in what youre saying, but there’s just huge amounts of projection, an absence of empathy and an absence of logic. So it doesn’t “sting” - your posts are becoming more scrambled and that isn’t conducive to a sensible discussion. I like sensible, intelligent discussions and I have partaken in whatever this is for long enough, it’s boring me now.

There is - maybe do some research instead of accepting things blindly.

Also says it all when you saying my posts are scrambled. Proving my point entirely. Thank you for scoring that own goal! Couldn't have walked into that one in a finer fashion!

How humiliating for you to prove me correct in such a spectacular way! Well done.

Espresso25 · 03/05/2025 16:59

How does agreeing to disagree prove you “correct” 🤣🤣

Violetmouse · 03/05/2025 17:23

@whippy1981 Please be aware that your comments are really quite distressing for me - and potentially others - to read. I have had a couple of fairly long admissions to psychiatric hospitals due to a diagnosis of depression which left me unable to eat, believing I was evil and could hurt people, not able to concentrate enough to read anything and a number of other symptoms. Unlike your experience, there was no clear history of trauma to trigger this. I also experienced significant improvement as a result of biological treatments, whilst also engaging in psychological treatments. I think the biopsychosocial model of mental illness is probably most likely - it's very complex. I think psychological and social factors are hugely important but also think there is a biological element. Which would fit with the evidence suggesting that biological treatments such as antidepressants are more effective than placebo pills in helping people feel better.

Reading your comments that all mental health problems are due to trauma reawakens feelings that I was somehow responsible for / imagining all my problems. You seem very certain that your way of thinking is the only way.

yummymu · 03/05/2025 17:24

I can help with this - please send me a message

whippy1981 · 03/05/2025 17:47

Violetmouse · 03/05/2025 17:23

@whippy1981 Please be aware that your comments are really quite distressing for me - and potentially others - to read. I have had a couple of fairly long admissions to psychiatric hospitals due to a diagnosis of depression which left me unable to eat, believing I was evil and could hurt people, not able to concentrate enough to read anything and a number of other symptoms. Unlike your experience, there was no clear history of trauma to trigger this. I also experienced significant improvement as a result of biological treatments, whilst also engaging in psychological treatments. I think the biopsychosocial model of mental illness is probably most likely - it's very complex. I think psychological and social factors are hugely important but also think there is a biological element. Which would fit with the evidence suggesting that biological treatments such as antidepressants are more effective than placebo pills in helping people feel better.

Reading your comments that all mental health problems are due to trauma reawakens feelings that I was somehow responsible for / imagining all my problems. You seem very certain that your way of thinking is the only way.

As do you think that model is the only way. As is your right.

Sorry but the trauma informed model is allowed to be discussed and saying that only the model is allowed not supportive of all.

Maybe step away from debating if you find people with other research distressing. I shouldn't have to be silent on research because someone is upset. I could say you are triggering me and then where would we be? No one can talk at all?

Violetmouse · 03/05/2025 17:53

Absolutely happy to discuss the trauma informed model of mental health - and I absolutely agree that some mental health related symptoms can be caused by trauma for some individuals. I would also agree that addressing trauma can help / resolve some mental health problems.

What I don't agree with - and what you seem to be saying - is that all mental health symptoms are caused by trauma, and the only treatment approach should be addressing trauma. Apart from anything else, traumatic experiences can result in neurological ie biological changes which, to me, suggests that biological approaches may be helpful. Alongside psychological and social approaches.

AlertCat · 03/05/2025 19:00

traumatic experiences can result in neurological ie biological changes which, to me, suggests that biological approaches may be helpful. Alongside psychological and social approaches.

Absolutely this.

whippy1981 · 03/05/2025 19:42

Violetmouse · 03/05/2025 17:53

Absolutely happy to discuss the trauma informed model of mental health - and I absolutely agree that some mental health related symptoms can be caused by trauma for some individuals. I would also agree that addressing trauma can help / resolve some mental health problems.

What I don't agree with - and what you seem to be saying - is that all mental health symptoms are caused by trauma, and the only treatment approach should be addressing trauma. Apart from anything else, traumatic experiences can result in neurological ie biological changes which, to me, suggests that biological approaches may be helpful. Alongside psychological and social approaches.

You have every right to disagree with me. As I have every right to disagree with you.

Isn't that what debate is?

whippy1981 · 03/05/2025 19:44

Espresso25 · 03/05/2025 16:59

How does agreeing to disagree prove you “correct” 🤣🤣

It wasn't that that I was commenting on! 😂

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