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Neighbours Garden Office

349 replies

Soontobesingles · 29/04/2025 15:19

My neighbours have recently started having work done to add an office/summer house thing to their garden. No planning permission and it is absolutely massive - to the point it will put 1/2 my lovey sunny garden in shade. I have told them that it is too high and they need planning permission. Builders insisting they don’t as something to do with a slope in the garden but rules are about height from foundations. Anyway, I have said I will report if it isn’t sufficiently reduced and both neighbour and builders are going mad saying £1,000s already spent on materials and plans, labour etc. AIBU to say I don’t care an will report? My garden is my sanctuary and many of my plants will die if shaded year round.

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ThisOldThang · 29/04/2025 18:50

LakieLady · 29/04/2025 16:40

The people across the road from me have done exactly the same, also on a sloping site.

A former colleague lives in the house that backs on to them. They were livid, as the slope means that the "garden office" rises several feet above his fence and shades his garden. They contacted the council, who said that it didn't need planning permission, partly because it had no cooking facilities and therefore couldn't be used as a dwelling, and that height wasn't an issue because the building was within the permitted height at the front.

However, it does have a toilet and shower room. Within weeks of it being finished, it was listed on airbnb, with a kettle, toaster and microwave clearly visible in the pictures. Former colleague was livid, and got on to the council, who said it still doesn't count as a dwelling because the microwave etc doesn't constitute "cooking facilities".

For years, it was used regularly by airbnbers, who often seemed to rock up in two cars in a street where parking is very limited. On more than one occasion, I had people knock on my door, sometimes very late at night, because they've mislaid the number for the keysafe and can't get in, and the owners were away. Thankfully, they rarely have guests these days and it's no longer listed on airbnb.

They managed to piss off loads of people at our end of the road though, especially as they've now got planning permission to extend the house sideways which will near double the size of it.

I don't think YABU, OP, but sadly I doubt if there's anything you can do about it.

They managed to piss off loads of people at our end of the road though, especially as they've now got planning permission to extend the house sideways which will near double the size of it.

Apart from petty jealousy, why would people be pissed off with a side extension that's got planning permission?

I wish people would just mind their own business when it comes to planning applications.

JandamiHash · 29/04/2025 18:52

Play silly games win silly prizes. Every bugger else has to get planning permission, I think it’s really scummy when people dont

TheMumEdit · 29/04/2025 18:53

This happened to us. Was 4.5 as well and as it’s right at the back they look directly into my house. Reported to council and they did nothing. It’s over permitted but they agreed not to enforce as they are too busy to investigate!

Strictlymad · 29/04/2025 18:56

Contact planning, if all is fine nothing to worry about, it sounds monstrous and if it’s up to your boundary I’m sure that’s not allowed without certain perameters

Soontobesingles · 29/04/2025 18:57

Just raging tbh. It’s so inconsiderate - instead of having at the back of their property spoiling their own view of the woodland behind they have it at the side spoiling ours? Just total selfishness and it’s massive. Hope it burns down in the wood fires we get here most summers.

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Ilikeadrink14 · 29/04/2025 18:57

Sidebeforeself · 29/04/2025 16:23

Watch The Feud on Channel Five!

When is it on please?

Soontobesingles · 29/04/2025 18:58

ThisOldThang · 29/04/2025 18:50

They managed to piss off loads of people at our end of the road though, especially as they've now got planning permission to extend the house sideways which will near double the size of it.

Apart from petty jealousy, why would people be pissed off with a side extension that's got planning permission?

I wish people would just mind their own business when it comes to planning applications.

Because it blocks their view, makes their home feel crowded in, creates shade, unsettles ground impacting plants, imposes on local wildlife etc etc.

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MyNameIsX · 29/04/2025 19:04

Planning enforcement is not a given, unfortunately. Often, it’s a case of ‘no further action’ i.e., we (the council) have investigated, but the severity of the infraction is insufficient to warrant any further action.

That’s my personal experience, in any event.

Frustratingly.

BellyPork · 29/04/2025 19:08

CosyLemur · 29/04/2025 17:57

If you never want good relations with these neighbours again report it - but in my experience builders know what they're doing and if it's in incorrect report hopefully the council will bill you for wasting their time!

Looks like your neighbours have found the thread, Op

JohnofWessex · 29/04/2025 19:09

If the Council say there is a breach but done enforce you can always complain which includes going to The Ombudsman

Horses7 · 29/04/2025 19:10

Report them!

Brunts12 · 29/04/2025 19:10

Soontobesingles · 29/04/2025 18:57

Just raging tbh. It’s so inconsiderate - instead of having at the back of their property spoiling their own view of the woodland behind they have it at the side spoiling ours? Just total selfishness and it’s massive. Hope it burns down in the wood fires we get here most summers.

Wow

Soontobesingles · 29/04/2025 19:11

BellyPork · 29/04/2025 19:08

Looks like your neighbours have found the thread, Op

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣if only! They already know I’m annoyed as we’ve had several loud rows about it. I guess I feel better now making a report.

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Soontobesingles · 29/04/2025 19:14

Maybe too harsh but I really am cross. If that really happened our house would burn too so I’m not serious. But just imagine having so little consideration for other people that you effectively destroy their use of their property and shrug your shoulders because ‘I can’.

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aquashiv · 29/04/2025 19:17

We erected ours followed all the guidelines....so did our neighbour his extended family moved in to theirs and council couldn't care less so good luck

grumpygrape · 29/04/2025 19:21

Callie247 · 29/04/2025 15:37

Maybe they should have found out if it was a permitted structure before spending thousands on it. That's their own issue. Contact the planning department and ask for someone in planning to assess the structure. If it is a permitted development then your neighbours won't have anything to worry about.

This

Hospworker · 29/04/2025 19:25

Id report it but id prepare myself for the possibility that it may well be legal, or that even if it isn't, the council may not act, and try not to be too angry over it.

I would be annoyed initially, but realistically we only own our own plot of land. The only way round this is to purchase a house with a massive garden that means the neighbours can't be seen.

I say this as someone who previously had a view from the garden over fields to a lovely village, and could see the church through the fields. It's now all been built on with a major dual carriageway link road connected, and a new estate one side, and a traveller site the other. I really liked my view - it was great whilst I had it! But I didn't buy the view - I bought the house and garden.

If anyone did anything against planning regs I would be the first to report it - and I wouldn't have spoken to the neighbours before I did id have just done it. But, if it turned out there was nothing to be done I would accept it. Of course they've chosen not to block their own view, I wouldn't expect otherwise really.

kalokagathos · 29/04/2025 19:25

Our neighbour did a tree house that is two storey - 8m tall in 2020 just because (no planning permission😵‍💫 ) Someone reported it. Turns out he erected it on Council’s land, beyond his garden fence. Council has been- declared it illegal. 4 years on - it’s still standing. The neighbour won’t pull it down. Council has no money to enforce it, and so it’s left it to rot for now. Very odd….

ThisZanyPinkSquid · 29/04/2025 19:27

Absolutely report it because i wouldn’t be happy spending thousands on my garden to not be able to enjoy it in the summer due to sunlight being blocked out!

fashionqueen0123 · 29/04/2025 19:28

Soontobesingles · 29/04/2025 18:57

Just raging tbh. It’s so inconsiderate - instead of having at the back of their property spoiling their own view of the woodland behind they have it at the side spoiling ours? Just total selfishness and it’s massive. Hope it burns down in the wood fires we get here most summers.

Report it asap. It’s much harder to get something knocked down than prevent it

Seeline · 29/04/2025 19:28

You sound rural OP?
You're not in an AONB or National Park I suppose? (Assuming you're in England).

JohnofWessex · 29/04/2025 19:29

kalokagathos · 29/04/2025 19:25

Our neighbour did a tree house that is two storey - 8m tall in 2020 just because (no planning permission😵‍💫 ) Someone reported it. Turns out he erected it on Council’s land, beyond his garden fence. Council has been- declared it illegal. 4 years on - it’s still standing. The neighbour won’t pull it down. Council has no money to enforce it, and so it’s left it to rot for now. Very odd….

If its rotting its a potential hazard and dangerous buildings can take action.

The Council can recover costs from whoever built it

AirborneElephant · 29/04/2025 19:29

Soontobesingles · 29/04/2025 15:42

It’s 4.5m and it is on our property boundary. As in at the edge of the shared fence. These are tiny London townhouses with small gardens not mansions.

4.5m is ridiculous! Why on earth would they want it that high unless it’s on a really steep slope.

BoredZelda · 29/04/2025 19:31

toomuchfaff · 29/04/2025 18:48

A bungalow maybe 2.3m, but not a 2 storey home?

Floor to ceiling is the same in a bungalow as it is in a two storey home. This is not the overall height or the building, but the height of each room from the floor to the ceiling.

Bulldog01 · 29/04/2025 19:32

Not quite the same issue as you, but still a issue that needs a resolution.My husband and I lived in a Cul de sac for 14 yrs.New Neighbours moved in next door which is a detached house.The couple decided to convert the garage into a a gym.We had to endure weights being dropped onto the floor of the garage,which caused vibrations through our house.This could be anytime of the day.With loud grunts & groans.We were already in the process of moving.But if we had to stay living there it would of been a issue.I think your Neighbours should of informed you at the very least of their intentions.They sound entitled and selfish.I would show them no mercy!