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Using S*x workers - what are people's views?

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HazyDayzofMay · 29/04/2025 10:43

I was in an abusive relationship with someone who never ever wanted to have sex, I think we must have had sex maybe a max 10 times... Yes, I know that is weird, and yes was very out of character for me, at that age, I'd had plenty of routine normal relationships and men had never found me unattractive, I was a magnet, always told I was sexy etc, so it was a very new experience for me. Problem is when this one happened my mum got a terminal cancer diagnosis at the same time, and didn't live long before she died. So life was really upturned when I was relatively young at 38, and anyway, long story short I ended up with this bloke, he seemed caring and nice in the beginning, and ended up having children - one a one hit wonder, the other through IVF as the sex was non-existent by that stage. Yes I know I should have left, I know I should not have had kids but as with any domestic abuse situation you get sucked in and duped by the lies, the abuse, the terror of leaving etc etc. but this is not what my post is about.

The constant chaos he still manages to create through post separation abuse, mostly through children now, is incredible. The latest is that he gave one child his old phone, I checked it had all the safety features set etc as there are no boundaries with him, and zero parenting, and I came across hundreds of messages going back years, to sex workers. It was his old work phone, so he's was doing it in work time, setting up appointments, arranging payments, content of appointments etc etc. I don't know if my child has seen the messages but he did alert me to the fact the phone hadn't been wiped which makes me think he has.

I guess I'm wondering, I've been out of the scene for 15 years and am wondering if this is just normal these days? The messages I've seen weren't from the relationship but the frequency of them makes me think he must have been doing it in the relationship too, I just never ever thought that was something on the radar. I just thought he was a repressed, buttoned up, covert narcissist with a problem with intimacy (which obviously he is) but I didnt think that he would have the balls to even smile at a woman (often thought he was gay, never said it) let alone arrange to be jerked off and have a one-off "s-extra" for £20. I never even checked his phone, which I now realise would have probably shown me what he was doing. And I would then have left straightaway - well who knows - but presumably I would have although I was financially tied and being economically abused too. Though now I also know where his money went, he was constantly in debt, and still is, and has just tried to drag me through the courts trying to get money but thankfully failed. He never makes the CMS payments and owes me thousands, lives in a caravan and earns £80k+ in construction project management which is presumably how he gets away with doing it during the day, between site visits?

I feel sick at the thought of it, but is this a puritanical reaction, not that it matters whether it is or not, but I was just wondering. Is this a thing people do these days, I know swinging is big for people in their 40s/50s/60s but is using sex workers routinely also big in this age group - he's mid 50s? At times he's seeing 4 or 5 in one week, one three times. He even tried to arrange for one of them to become an "au pair" and look after the kids over the summer a few years back. Thank god she was already back in Croatia. I don't know, what do people think? In my mind its so wrong, and fits well into what I now know about his personality, the domestic abuse and coercion I experienced, he's a misogynist for sure, has a big problem with women, so it looks like exploitation to me - their English is broken in the messages, their charges are really low, they move addresses constantly, but that's not what my question is about. Its more a general interest, has anyone else discovered something like this about their exes?

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Bbq1 · 29/04/2025 10:53

It's vile. He's vile and no, Op it's not usual in a loving, strong relationship. If it wasn't bad enough, he's clearly using young, trafficked and abused women. I know there are a lot of difficulties in your communications with him but at least you are free of an actual "relationship" with him. You deserve better and there are men out there who haven't used and don't use prostitutes.

Bbq1 · 29/04/2025 10:55

Not sure what your unreasonable is but it's unreasonable to think that the majority of men pay for sex. They don't.

PashaMinaMio · 29/04/2025 10:58

Many on here will say it’s never right to use se* workers. I’m inclined to agree but society is swimming against that tide and it’s never ever going to stop.

What you’ve discovered about his past is history and no longer anything to do with you. If he was using them during your relationship that was very wrong but no doubt it will just add to your relief that you’re out of the relationship now. He sounds awful but there’s plenty like him out there.

Make sure any future donated phones for the kids are well and truly wiped and put him well and truly behind you. Don’t even give him head space. Be glad it’s all over between you.

toomuchfaff · 29/04/2025 10:59

No, visiting 100s sex workers when in a normal loving relationship isn't usual. This isn't normal behaviour for a well adjusted man in a relationship.

username93678 · 29/04/2025 11:33

It's very difficult to gather accurate evidence but I've read that 1 in 8 men have visited a sex worker. If you count cam workers as sex workers or OnlyFans, then the figure is huge.

I had an ex who was a sex addict. Many don't believe such a thing exists but he would wake me up in the night masturbating, would not come with me when I left the house so he could masturbate, wanted sex every night and was paying for sex. In fact he was having sex with them in the house and I met one.

Paying for sex tends to be with them for life, they enjoy the whole experience and it becomes a fetish which is why he didn't want sex with you.

Caerulea · 29/04/2025 11:42

Firstly, no it's not normal. Secondly, it's not ok.

Thirdly...

THIRDLY! MY GOD your ex sounds like he might be on the front page of a newspaper one day! I'd not want him to be any kind of influence on my children at all in any capacity.

bridgetreilly · 29/04/2025 11:45

If you can’t even write the word sex, you shouldn’t be doing it.

Pollyanna87 · 29/04/2025 12:06

You can’t buy consent.

TokyoKyoto · 29/04/2025 12:14

I don't think what your ex was doing was normal. Sorry you've had to deal with that.

I think men using sex workers occupies a place on the scale of violence against women, as such I consider men who do it to be violent. I appreciate that a lot of people don't agree. I feel sorry for men who are led or brought up to believe that it's normal and just a convenient transaction. But I feel more sorry for the women and I feel enraged on behalf of all of us who deal with male violence every single day in one form or another.

EllasNonny · 29/04/2025 12:17

You can't buy consent.

MinnieCauldwell · 29/04/2025 12:18

Sex Worker = Prostituted Woman
Paid for consent is not real consent

TinselAngel · 29/04/2025 12:20

Abusing prostituted and probably trafficked women is not normal, no.

Giggorata · 29/04/2025 12:24

Can I ask why we're suddenly censoring the word sex?
It's a perfectly permissible descriptive word and this isn't barmy YouTube.
I hope their brand of infantilising censorship isn't the way we're heading now.
SEX.

Dollshousedolly · 29/04/2025 12:24

You mentioned that you think your child may have seen the messages on this phone but aren’t sure - I think urgently need to talk to your DS to find out and have chats with him about this.

It’s not normal for men to be regularly paying for sex, some obviously do but not the vast majority.

Dollshousedolly · 29/04/2025 12:26

And nor is swinging big for people in their 40/50/60’s. Obviously some do but I wouldn’t think it’s a big thing.

BobbyBiscuits · 29/04/2025 12:32

I don't know any men who would use a prostitute. Literally none.
Except one gay guy who used male ones.

It's degrading to women and misogynistic and there is no proper consent. That's what I think.

So no your ex isn't normal. He'd disgusting and obviously has a lot of massive issues.

JazzyJelly · 29/04/2025 12:33

Men raping (often trafficked) women?

I'm against.

No, your revolting ex-partner is not normal. Have you spoken to someone about it? It sounds traumatic.

Bbq1 · 29/04/2025 12:34

Dollshousedolly · 29/04/2025 12:26

And nor is swinging big for people in their 40/50/60’s. Obviously some do but I wouldn’t think it’s a big thing.

True. I should think very, very few people in this age group are participating in the swinging scene. It will be a tiny minority.

WaltzingWaters · 29/04/2025 12:36

toomuchfaff · 29/04/2025 10:59

No, visiting 100s sex workers when in a normal loving relationship isn't usual. This isn't normal behaviour for a well adjusted man in a relationship.

Exactly this. He’s vile and be glad you got rid of him.

HazyDayzofMay · 29/04/2025 12:46

Giggorata · 29/04/2025 12:24

Can I ask why we're suddenly censoring the word sex?
It's a perfectly permissible descriptive word and this isn't barmy YouTube.
I hope their brand of infantilising censorship isn't the way we're heading now.
SEX.

Sorry my "fault", I thought the post would be deleted as it is in other places when you write sex out fully, like womens aid forum, facebook groups, etc.

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HazyDayzofMay · 29/04/2025 12:51

HazyDayzofMay · 29/04/2025 12:46

Sorry my "fault", I thought the post would be deleted as it is in other places when you write sex out fully, like womens aid forum, facebook groups, etc.

And knowing what Mumsnet is like with the hater-contingent I wrote sex workers but I believe it to be exploitation not sex work but I didnt want a whole discussion about that - I wanted to know if men, single men, do this a lot more these days than they used to, I was interested in the change in society fully and if the online world, lack of community, social isolation everyone has means this is a thing much more than it ever was in normal everyday society. I of course believe it to be exploitation, coercion, misogynistic power and control but as in all things, I wanted to know if this could be more normal that I believed it to be. etc etc.

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HazyDayzofMay · 29/04/2025 12:59

Bbq1 · 29/04/2025 12:34

True. I should think very, very few people in this age group are participating in the swinging scene. It will be a tiny minority.

You'd think but where I live, its pretty normal, and thats like a large market town/almost city type place in the south. I have met 4 women at the local DA support service who are in to it. All different ages, all different types, its definitely a scene where I live, that's why I asked. I was like OMFG really, haven't we moved on from that misogynistic crap wrapped up in feminist freedom from the 70s but nope, seems like even women (and I don't mean to judge its an observation) who have been in abusive relationships feel there is some element of empowerment doing it.. ANYWAY.

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Bbq1 · 29/04/2025 13:03

HazyDayzofMay · 29/04/2025 12:59

You'd think but where I live, its pretty normal, and thats like a large market town/almost city type place in the south. I have met 4 women at the local DA support service who are in to it. All different ages, all different types, its definitely a scene where I live, that's why I asked. I was like OMFG really, haven't we moved on from that misogynistic crap wrapped up in feminist freedom from the 70s but nope, seems like even women (and I don't mean to judge its an observation) who have been in abusive relationships feel there is some element of empowerment doing it.. ANYWAY.

Oh well it's certainly not a thing here or in most other places.

Espresso25 · 29/04/2025 13:08

It must be relatively common otherwise there wouldn’t be numerous “massage parlours” in town etc.

Ive never known someone admit to it - but then who would?

Espresso25 · 29/04/2025 13:10

Although, that said, I did once have someone offer to pay for my time. He must have been 50’s someone I knew professionally, he knew i was doing a post grad and suggested I might be able to pay for my studies that way..!