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To think that having a mammogram carried out by a man is preferable to a long wait for an appointment.

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JudithOnHolidayAgain · 29/04/2025 08:29

I know many people who wouldn't be here now without early detection of breast cancer due to the screening programme.
I have had a few myself.
It's not something I look forward to but it's a few minutes of discomfort that could save my life so I put up with it.
Given the choice I would prefer a woman carry it out as it is quite intrusive but as there is a shortage of female staff I would be ok with a male member of staff as long as there was a chaperone and Iwas told in advance.
If they do change the rules I think there should be a choice.

OP posts:
SDTGisAnEvilWolefGenius · 30/04/2025 12:30

NorthWestToWest · 29/04/2025 20:58

You could say the same about male gynaecologists surely?

The difference is that gynaecologists or male drs have to offer you a chaperone. Radiographers don't so that needs to change if it's a man.

There is a lot of touching with mammograms.

I have the impression that many posters here are either not over 50 (age mammograms are started) or have not had a mammogram for other reasons so don't appreciate what it's like.

Boobs are 'manhandled' and placed in the machine with a lot of lifting and positioning of them.

Historically women have had no choice about having a male gynaecologist, @NorthWestToWest, so maybe we have become resigned to it, and are just glad for the women who have entered that speciality, whereas the mammogram service has been run solely by women from the get-go (or from very early on, at least) so we are used to it being a female-provided service, and many of us would see letting male techs in as a major backward step.

ButterCrackers · 30/04/2025 12:33

FlakyCritic · 30/04/2025 12:29

I have extremely large breasts (G size), so not sure about that.

It's also about standing, how you position yourself, your arms and shoulders etc. I'm also a shortarse so there's that.

Edited

Perhaps not the cup size then. I can stand in the way they want but my wobbly belly does get in the way of the lower plate part when I’m facing the machine. It might be the experience of the medical person that gets everything lined up fast?

godmum56 · 30/04/2025 12:57

ButterCrackers · 30/04/2025 11:46

I’ve not experienced pain just that it feels uncomfortable. Each breast is manipulated twice but with a gloved hand and it’s to get it in place. The nipples aren’t touched it’s the underneath and then getting the sides in place. Literally two touches and then the plate is placed. I have no problem with this. I can see on this thread how horrifying it is for others.

I am someone who would accept a bloke doing it but that is SO not my experience. Yes gloved hands and no need to touch nipples but much more touching to get the position right and the squash wasn't very painful but the pull on my neck and chest skin was agony. Apparently it is more painful if you have less breast tissue but i have always had plenty and always found it painful....wasn't the technician as i ahve seen many different ones over the years, also a couple of recalls when i went to a different place.

godmum56 · 30/04/2025 12:59

ButterCrackers · 30/04/2025 12:25

Not my experience. Perhaps having a larger cup size is key? Or the experience of the medical practitioner? I’ve had a few mammograms and never a problem.

nope, mine are huge, always have been and I have seen many different mammographers.

ghostyslovesheets · 30/04/2025 13:06

I’m very short (just under 5ft 1”) and have small breasts so the whole thing is a faff and involves lots of manoevering

JenniferBooth · 30/04/2025 13:06

Lovelysausagedogscrumpy · 30/04/2025 06:08

Neither is punishment. There are problems with filling the vacancies for mammography. Filling them with male radiographers will hopefully give women the choice of a quicker screening if they choose to have it done by a man. Those who don’t mind, will free up more female radiographers for those who do. It’s not rocket science, and providing women have the choice and understand the implications if they want to wait for a female, l don’t see a problem. You can’t force women to take up more of these jobs, so what solution would you offer ?

I ended up with two cancelled routine mammograms because of staffing problems. I waited ten weeks for the appointment which discovered a very large tumour l didn’t know was there. Had the cancer been a more aggressive type that delay could well have resulted in a later stage diagnosis, much more aggressive treatment and possibly impacted survival time, and l’ve no doubt that that is the case for some. I think we’re losing sight of what’s most important here.

And there’s a reason we wait longer for a hysteroscopy, or any other procedure in which we opt for a GA rather than a local. There is much more risk to a GA. It requires more prep, more after care to ensure optimum safety and the time and expertise of an anaesthetist. So you wait longer because the NHS can’t simply wave a magic wand and produce these things. And it not an exclusively female problem.

They manage to produce it when a man has a vasectomy

ghostyslovesheets · 30/04/2025 13:07

Or manoeuvring!

ghostyslovesheets · 30/04/2025 13:13

Actually my hysteroscopy experience was different - apt with consultant, scanned (by female with chaperone) review of scan 20 mins later with male consultant and chaperone, straight into procedure room with consultant, 2 female nurses and female student - adverse reaction to LA ( legs in stirrups, bum out, head down, blood pressure through roof, blinding headache and shaking all over) two female staff stayed and cared for me.

this was a Wednesday - op under GA booked for that Saturday- then moved and completed the following Friday!

Indianajet · 30/04/2025 16:52

ghostyslovesheets · 30/04/2025 13:06

I’m very short (just under 5ft 1”) and have small breasts so the whole thing is a faff and involves lots of manoevering

Me too - just 5ft with small breasts, always involves quite a bit of manoeuvring and very close proximity to the radiographer. No problem with a female, would be very uncomfortable with a man.

HollaHolla · 30/04/2025 17:18

I recently had my first mammogram, and I'd have had no problem with it being carried out by a male radiographer. I don't care who does it, as long as they're qualified.
Also, I have a M/F couple of friends, who are both Gynecologists. He is just as good, and experienced as she is. Barring initial embarrassment that my male friend was looking at my vagina, I'd have no problem with him treating me.
I think that, for women who don't want a male worker, that option should be there - but should also be prepared for a longer wait, if a female worker isn't available.

chibsortig · 30/04/2025 18:09

I don't mind having any medical procedure done by male professionals as long as I can have a chaperone. However there are people out there with significant trauma to want to request female only medical professionals to do their procedures. Which I think is absolutely their right to choose. Same goes for males of they only want to see male medical staff to deal with intimate issues. I think everyone should be able to choose who they want to treat them.

husbandcookingtonight · 30/04/2025 18:09

I agree with you OP there should be a choice and I personally don't want a man doing my Mammogram I would feel so embarrassed and it would put me off but that's just the way I am and I'm sure there are many people like me.

NorthWestToWest · 30/04/2025 18:11

HollaHolla · 30/04/2025 17:18

I recently had my first mammogram, and I'd have had no problem with it being carried out by a male radiographer. I don't care who does it, as long as they're qualified.
Also, I have a M/F couple of friends, who are both Gynecologists. He is just as good, and experienced as she is. Barring initial embarrassment that my male friend was looking at my vagina, I'd have no problem with him treating me.
I think that, for women who don't want a male worker, that option should be there - but should also be prepared for a longer wait, if a female worker isn't available.

I think it's inappropriate for a consultant who is a friend carrying out intimate examinations.

Couldn't you ask for someone else?

My gynaecologist is male and am completely comfortable with him but if he was a friend I had a coffee with- no way!

Nanof8 · 30/04/2025 18:13

Having my mammogram done by a male is a heck of a lot less intrusive than when I have to go in for my PAP which is done by a male doctor. When my BC was discovered my surgeon was a male, my follow-up cancer specialist was a male, the only female specialist I had was one of the nurses who did my radiation treatment. So as long as they are trained to give mammograms, I'm all for it. Especially as it will most likely mean shorter wait times and BC will be caught quicker.

Gloriia · 30/04/2025 18:14

NorthWestToWest · 30/04/2025 18:11

I think it's inappropriate for a consultant who is a friend carrying out intimate examinations.

Couldn't you ask for someone else?

My gynaecologist is male and am completely comfortable with him but if he was a friend I had a coffee with- no way!

I don't think the pp was suggesting their friend carried out intimate examinations just they'd <strangely> have no problem if they did.

Nanof8 · 30/04/2025 18:19

NorthWestToWest · 30/04/2025 18:11

I think it's inappropriate for a consultant who is a friend carrying out intimate examinations.

Couldn't you ask for someone else?

My gynaecologist is male and am completely comfortable with him but if he was a friend I had a coffee with- no way!

I suppose it would depend in how large of an area you lived in. I used to see my male GP in social situations often. We didn't chat about medical stuff, we talked about what ever it was that we were attending. I was also friends with his wife.
When I was living in a small town it would have been difficult to not be friends with the local doctors and nurses.

Samamfia · 30/04/2025 18:21

Anyone just generically offended by men carrying out mammograms is in for a nasty surprise if they ever go for a colonoscopy... or fistula surgery... or various other medical tests and procedures involving the pelvic anatomy.

Obviously, it should be a choice - if someone has prior experience or personal reasons for being deeply uncomfortable with a man carrying out a mammogram, they should be able to request that it's done by a female. As with any medical procedure. But it's bizarre to me that this particular one is being debated when many more intimate procedures are commonly carried out by men.

HollaHolla · 30/04/2025 18:26

NorthWestToWest · 30/04/2025 18:11

I think it's inappropriate for a consultant who is a friend carrying out intimate examinations.

Couldn't you ask for someone else?

My gynaecologist is male and am completely comfortable with him but if he was a friend I had a coffee with- no way!

He's not, and I wouldn't think would ever be, my doctor. But, I was making the point that I am sure of his professionalism and knowledge. Doesn't matter that he's a man.
I will say that I've not had any bad experiences with male healthcare workers, so this obviously skews my view to believe everyone is good, until they show you they're not.

PassingStranger · 30/04/2025 18:43

Nope, not for me

axolotlfloof · 30/04/2025 18:43

Why is it necessary? Far more than half of healthcare workers are female.
Why should women compromise?
Why do some men want to do this job?
It all sounds a bit dodgy

mumda · 30/04/2025 19:06

Fr33asaB1rd · 30/04/2025 06:40

Doesn’t happen in mine. I’m given good instructions re leaning etc, position boob myself under instruction and I’m given verbal instructions as to how to stand, lean and position arm with radiographer standing elsewhere whilst the pics are taken. You stand in position on your own.She nips back and forth to direct and explain things. Last time I had somebody being trained which I agreed to and it was heavily monitored. It was the same. Have never felt my space invaded at all and I have autism( which they don’t know about) alongside a fear of hospitals and hate space invading. It is slightly uncomfortable re standing in position for a couple of minutes but not painful. Top and bra are right by the machine for easy access.

Edited

You must have the perfect size boobs for being squished easily.

I've had four mammograms. All have taken considerable positioning to get my boobs in the right place.

Maybe some of our experience is down to boob size.

But I don't want any women to feel they have to be kind to men and agree to being manipulated into the machine by a bloke. When actually they don't want to be but feel they should because some other woman don't mind.
Being kind got us into the mess with men in our single sex places.
Let them train more women radiographers.

They are recruiting for more to enter training right now aren't they ? That was the point of their vote to draw attention and to highlight the recruitment process? Right?
It wasn't just men wanting to get into our spaces was it?

Fr33asaB1rd · 30/04/2025 19:27

mumda · 30/04/2025 19:06

You must have the perfect size boobs for being squished easily.

I've had four mammograms. All have taken considerable positioning to get my boobs in the right place.

Maybe some of our experience is down to boob size.

But I don't want any women to feel they have to be kind to men and agree to being manipulated into the machine by a bloke. When actually they don't want to be but feel they should because some other woman don't mind.
Being kind got us into the mess with men in our single sex places.
Let them train more women radiographers.

They are recruiting for more to enter training right now aren't they ? That was the point of their vote to draw attention and to highlight the recruitment process? Right?
It wasn't just men wanting to get into our spaces was it?

Don’t be so ridiculous.

“I don't want any women to feel they have to be kind to men and agree to being manipulated into the machine by a bloke”

Sooo not what is being suggested. Really shameful scaremongering.

Fr33asaB1rd · 30/04/2025 19:29

axolotlfloof · 30/04/2025 18:43

Why is it necessary? Far more than half of healthcare workers are female.
Why should women compromise?
Why do some men want to do this job?
It all sounds a bit dodgy

What an awful
post.

Jumpers4goalposts · 30/04/2025 19:48

I think knowing it was going to be completed by a man would actually put me off. I had one completed when I was pregnant and it was uncomfortable, and very personal I was shocked by the amount of man handling that went on. I’d prefer it to be done by someone who understands what’s it’s like. Likewise wouldn’t like a male midwife either.

ButterCrackers · 30/04/2025 19:57

mumda · 30/04/2025 19:06

You must have the perfect size boobs for being squished easily.

I've had four mammograms. All have taken considerable positioning to get my boobs in the right place.

Maybe some of our experience is down to boob size.

But I don't want any women to feel they have to be kind to men and agree to being manipulated into the machine by a bloke. When actually they don't want to be but feel they should because some other woman don't mind.
Being kind got us into the mess with men in our single sex places.
Let them train more women radiographers.

They are recruiting for more to enter training right now aren't they ? That was the point of their vote to draw attention and to highlight the recruitment process? Right?
It wasn't just men wanting to get into our spaces was it?

What’s a male medical professional got to do with men getting into female only spaces? Do you also only have a female dentist as they will need to touch your mouth area?

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