To consider taking this new job

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Background:

I am in a role with a title that is way below my abilities and actual responsibilities.

My previous manager took a better job within my organisation. Prior to this, she tried to get me a promotion. This was about to happen (about a year ago) when suddenly a new companywide policy came into effect which makes it impossible to get a promotion without changing roles.

My new manager is relatively nice and my work life balance is normally ok. I have a lot of freedom to be present for my 9 year old, who needs a lot of support due to my abusive ex/their father. I am getting a bit bored with the job but it's fine.

My old manager called me recently to ask if I want a role in her team. I would be reporting to a young and keen person (without kids) who is leading a new initiative. The work sounds very interesting and suited to me, and this would give me a broader range of experience. I would either get a higher job title or (more likely) a significant pay rise.

I'm in my late 40s and I am getting anxious about what opportunities would be available if I were to lose my current job or just find that I couldn't stand it anymore.

YABU - Stay in your current manageable role and enjoy your good QOL.

YANBU - Take the opportunity, even with the possible risk of a strict manager, and that the role may be super demanding.

Do it. But ask for the higher job title AND payrise for sure. Start prepping your child now to be more self sufficient. I’m getting my 9 year old to cook me dinner once a week by turning it into a game. I think 9 is the perfect age that they want to start having a bit more independence and when they do something successfully themselves it’s massively empowering to them. Don’t associate giving them more responsibility with you getting a new job tho. Target it as ‘now you’re heading towards year 5’ or similar.

also manage your younger manager and be upfront that you will still be doing x school runs on these days but will make up hours and be happy to be flexible in other ways. Don’t try to hide it.

Thanks! For organisational reasons, I am not sure whether the higher job title is possible. The new manager is very junior to me in experience 🙃 and has the title that I want. Maybe this is why. I'm not sure. The firm is looking to reduce headcounts of senior people, basically.

I'd have another chat with the old manager about this for more information. Be blunt about your goals and ask them if they think this move would serve you in reaching them.

If its a yes, then do it.

also manage your younger manager and be upfront that you will still be doing x school runs on these days but will make up hours and be happy to be flexible in other ways. Don’t try to hide it.

I think this is right. They have sought me out and tbh I am probably perfect for the role. Being upfront and ensuring that we are a good fit re family expectations is the best approach.

Any other thoughts are welcome! I have a meeting with my old manager tomorrow and feel I need to have a firmer idea what I want beforehand

About to meet with my old manager. I think I will say that I am interested.

If the new job comes with a significant pay rise I would definitely take it. This will help with the potential change in QOL and will give you opportunities to do more with your daughter. Also the higher salary is a bargaining tool for if/when you want to go elsewhere. The higher salary will also make you feel the change has been worthwhile at times when you miss the extra time, less pressure you had before. I am not sure whether I would make my working life more demanding when you are a single parent to a nine year old with an abusive ex if all you are getting out of it is a better job title. True the new job title can also be a bargaining tool but with the salary increase not so much. You would simply be offered a new job with a little more than you are getting now. Also when job stress/less time with your daughter occurs, without the rise I think I would become resentful and wonder how exactly I and daughter are benefitting from the new arrangement. I would check the salary offered first. Be careful not to be manoeuvred into a role where you have more responsibility and a demanding boss without any financial reward for you. I've seen this happen before, especially in smaller firms with a less structured payroll linked to role. They want someone to take on this more responsible role but without extra pay. So they big up the opportunity for advancement, give it a more important job title and get the most reliable, hardworking member of staff to take it on for nothing.
I do hope the role comes with the deserved pay rise op. If so I would definitely go for it. If it doesn't ...might be food for thought to give some consideration to what I'm saying here.Good lunch whatever you decide. 💐

Good lunch??? 😂😂 I hope you get a good lunch when you go to discuss this but what I really meant to say was good luck 🤣💐

Thank you! The potential future line manager was apparently very positive about me. However, thanks to Trump's crashing of the world economy there is now a hiring freeze. So we will see what happens. My old manager will be working in the background to hire anyway (as it's really business critical for them to fill this role) and it's possible she will gain some traction.

Also, I was clear that the job title / pay piece would be an important factor in any decision I may make

Just went to start a new thread on the SAME TOPIC and the subject line autofilled, reminding me that this is not actually a new question.

Apparently they now could hire me with the new job title and a higher salary. But I'm nervous about the superkeen new manager!