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Umbrella episode!

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dandeliontea12 · 23/04/2025 20:21

I am really upset about something and would like help thinking it through.
Today was my day off. I did tons of Spring cleaning as house needed sorting out. I sat down at three o'clock to have a coffee as I had been busy all day.
I looked out of the patio doors into the garden and something didn't seem right. I also couldn't relax. Kept looking and wondering what seemed off, then noticed that a large patio umbrella towards the very back of the garden looked odd at the top. I looked from a different window and discovered that a large black camera had been added to the very top (black ball shape) of the umbrella. I probably only noticed it because I am quite a visual person and the shape at the top looked odd. The camera had been positioned to look directly at the back of the house, including where I was sitting. It's a biggish garden so it would be a distant view but still it would monitor the whole back of the house all day and night.

My partner came home a bit later. I confronted him and asked if he had put a camera on top of the patio umbrella. I said I was annoyed and did not feel it was appropriate and to take it down immediately - which he did. I said a ring doorbell on the front of the house is fine but I had not given consent to a camera in the umbrella and had not been asked!! I said it is my home and I do not want to feel under surveillance here when pottering about in the garden or in and out the back door. I said that it is my home, not a bank or supermarket with cameras. It did not feel like it was for burglers particularly as it was not at a door/window, just the whole back of the house and garden. I also felt deceived, I had seen him fixing the umbrella at the weekend and he had had the black ball from on top of it in his hand. I asked him at that time, 'what is that?' and he had not mentioned a camera, simply saying 'Oh, it's just the top bit off the umbrella'. (That would have been his chance to add that he was going to put a camera on it). I feel that he said this - it's just the top of the umbrella - as he knew I would be upset if a camera was going to be put there. He then went on to gaslight me that there had always been a camera there in the garden but in a different umbrella! He said well, don't blame him if we get broken into; I feel it was deflecting on to me so that I would be the person in the wrong and the camera was for my own good. I asked my daughter if she was aware that there had been a camera in a different umbrella there and she said no. If there had always been one I doubt I would have suddenly noticed it just today! It is making me doubt myself.
I feel that my partner is controlling. He likes gadgets fair enough but he should ask consent. He has recently rigged the lights in the house up to an app on his phone. I had to argue again that I don't want that as I also need to control the light and would prefer to manually turn them on and off when needed.
He has managed to turn this episode round tonight already so that he is a perfectly reasonable person just wanting to protect his 'property' and I am not! I am really fed up with it all. I feel that I am put in a position of having to argue for the general courtesy around things most people expect and then blamed for 'arguing'. I feel it is arrogant to not ask someone's consent to things that affect them.
Am I being unreasonable?

I have been very unhappy for a long, long time.

OP posts:
Crunchymum · 23/04/2025 20:24

What's your financial position?

Any children?

I'd be making plans to leave the relationship but appreciate it often isn't that easy 😥

ThinWomansBrain · 23/04/2025 20:30

You know he is being unreasonable - if the camera had been for security reasons, why not be open rather than lying about it.
I think the term "gaslighting" is overused, and frequently inappropriately, but certainly applies here.
Get your phone & car checked for tracking devices, maybe the rest of you home.

Think about plans for getting away from this weirdo safely.

MoominMai · 23/04/2025 20:42

Yiu know what to do OP ♥️. The clue is in your closing sentence.

parietal · 23/04/2025 21:00

It sounds like it is time to make plans to leave. Who owns the house?

dandeliontea12 · 23/04/2025 22:13

House jointly owned. I feel there is no respect for me.
Thanks for your replies everyone. I've been feeling really low with it all. Yes, I know I would be better leaving but bit trapped at the moment, low paid job etc but will look for new job. Older, independent children. We are actually married but I feel my views are always belittled or overrode.

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Endofyear · 23/04/2025 22:14

Do you believe he is genuinely concerned about security or do you think the camera is so that he can see what you're doing? Is he controlling in other ways? Are you concerned that he may have other hidden cameras in the house? Tracking apps/devices on your car or phone? I would be.

Dollshousedolly · 23/04/2025 22:15

I’d be checking that there are no hidden cameras/recording devices inside your house.

Mistyglade · 23/04/2025 22:24

I am sorry but it reminds me of that storyline in Corrie with Geoff and Yasmeen. How dare he invade your privacy let alone the gaslighting abuse, I hope you can get away from him.

BoredZelda · 23/04/2025 22:30

The camera is irrelevant. If my husband put a camera up without asking, it wouldn’t bother me one bit. We have apps for everything, heating, lights etc, it doesn’t bother me one bit. But he is not the least bit controlling and nor am I unhappy in my marriage.

Instead of focusing on this incident, look at the whole picture. You’ll know what to do.

dandeliontea12 · 23/04/2025 23:13

Yes, he has been controlling in other ways in the past including financially.
Its not the fact of the aps for controlling lights etc but the fact that they are controlled from his phone. I can over-ride it by unplugging a lamp and plugging it back in again (to switch it on manually) but why should I have to in my own home?
Yes, I will look out for other cameras, thanks. Thanks for your comments everyone.
I think for me there is something about consent with a camera, even a 'security' camera. It is not something I would put up without asking the other person/people. It feels like its undermining my agency, I am not important enough to be asked. It wasn't positioned near doors/windows but positioned for a wide shot of the whole back garden/back of house. We live in a 'safe' area and nothing behind the house but fields for miles. Even if it was about security, surely you would just run by the other person what you were thinking of doing?

OP posts:
Onynx · 24/04/2025 00:13

OP just wondering would turning off the wifi disable all these cameras? If so that's exactly what I'd be doing when he's out of the house...

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