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Client cancelling contract early and demanding refund

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Clientissuesss · 22/04/2025 16:50

I have a small marketing agency which has been going for 4 years following a career in media & marketing. It’s been going really well but of course we have had some troubles with clients along the way, but nothing that hasn’t been miscommunication or resolved, and we don’t have any negative reviews. We also have a social media account with a good following where we post our work like a portfolio as a lot of our customers come from social media. We get a lot of really positive feedback there too.

Anyway, our rates are very competitive due to being small and outside of London. For a long time I’d say they were too low if anything.

We recently had an enquiry from a new business that was looking for our services. I answered his questions, sent him through our portfolio and case studies as well as giving him details on how we work, expectations as it’s not generally an instant results basis, and that we have a minimum three month sign up as anything less they are not going to see the value they want and it would be a waste of money. It’s not worth the bad feedback for us by offering shorter terms when we know you need a certain amount of time and we of course want to generate the best results.

We also had a phone call, and he said he wanted to go ahead. But throughout this time he was bombarding me with phone calls unannounced and repeatedly messaging, which I was okay with because they are new and seemed very excited to get started.

An agreement was made and signed, with the client agreeing to three months, everything was stated in the contract and he seemed happy, signed and over the next few days he spent some time going through onboarding for us to work on an initial strategy. He also asked me to send through the invoice early so he can get this paid, which he did within 2 days. We do have a 7 day period whilst we work on onboarding & strategy so he didn’t have to pay immediately which he was aware of as stated on the invoice.

We were working on a retainer basis so a payment each month of the same amount over 3 months.

I received the onboarding on Monday morning, and explained that the strategy would be with them by Thursday so that I could go through, ask any further questions, speak with the team about deliverables and put the strategy together which is indepth, covers three months and takes time.

Anyway, on Thursday I got a random message saying they wouldn’t be continuing after a month because they ‘hadn’t seen results yet’, I explained that this is because they have only just sent onboarding and we start the project once this is done and strategy signed off, that they are not charged for onboarding time and reminded that as had been mentioned, the service takes time to see the results due to XYZ (don’t want to go tomorrow in-depth on what we do as could be outing), but it is standard practice across the industry. He like reacted to the message and didn’t reply.

Later that day I got another message saying they needed to cancel as they now have ‘stock issues’ which I questioned following the first message, and the fact we had already spoken about and confirmed their stock level. They didn’t reply.

Over Easter weekend I was bombarded with messages complaining about the service, saying we had forced them into paying and into an agreement and that he’d had a really bad experience etc. Again I was confused, asked where he had been forced and what had been ‘bad’ so far but he didn’t answer and just messaged again saying he doesn’t want to proceed.

I said I would contact him on Tuesday after Easter weekend, but he was blowing up my phone and making me really anxious because of the things he was saying, so I just agreed to cancel because obviously I didn’t want to work on a bad relationship.

He’s now asking for a full refund despite our contract stating that we have the three month fixed period. Whilst I have agreed to cancel, we have lost planned revenue for the next two months, and I had actually increased a team member’s hours due to needing more support on this project due to their expectations. I have already agreed on her payment, and as a small business we don’t make a huge amount of money at all, and so now I’m not sure what to do.

I tried calling Citizen’s Advice to see if they could advise me on what to do, but they said they normally deal with consumers rather than B2B, and gave me another number but I haven’t been able to get through.

Of course I am still being messaged, but I am not sure where I stand and am normally quite a pushover because we’re such a small fish in a big pond that a bad review could affect us - but I have already allocated the budget and will need to let a team member down due to this.

Sorry if it’s long or I’ve missed anything, I’ve not been through this before and any time I have asked to cancel a contract early I have been told no and continued to pay with or without the service. Obviously I am not doing that but with the payment he has already made, the work being started, the agreement of 3 months fixed, the team member increased, I’m not sure where I stand. He sent a screenshot of how he had a 14 day cooling off period according to Google, but according to what he has sent it looks like that doesn’t legally apply with B2B unless expressed and agreed in the contract? Maybe I’m wrong!

What would you do in this situation? Any advice is greatly appreciated and sorry for such a long post just don’t want to drip feed!

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DenholmElliot11 · 22/04/2025 16:53

Well if YOU don't understand how your own terms and conditions work I'm not sure why you're asking us. I'd be inclined to let this one go to be honest. Not worth the agro.

Clientissuesss · 22/04/2025 17:00

@DenholmElliot11 I do understand how our terms and conditions work, it would be no refund due to breaching the contract and cancelling early, which is why I asked what others were do because I’ve not been in this situation before; and he is making me very anxious, but I have already agreed extra hours with a team member so that is why I do not know what to do. I am very much a pushover and it is difficult.

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wowwhataday · 22/04/2025 17:05

Unfortunately you have to factor in the cost of the occasional oddball client so you can get rid of them quickly with a full refund. A pain but it happens

Rosie8880 · 22/04/2025 17:06

Hi. First off all… I’d be counting my blessings they sound like a NIGHTMARE! You’ve agreed to cancel the contract. Now if I were you I’d want to cancel contact as soon as possible. I’d share the following with them. You agreed to T&C that stated no cancellation or whatever. At our discretion we have agreed to cancel your contract. The decision on whether to refund or not to me would be based on whether you can handle the volume of mad calls coming in from said bloke/ client; potential unfair and mad reviews online; (which btw may still happen whatever you decide to do with refund vs no refund. They sound a total nightmare tho. Re your employee - it’s business unfortunately if situation changes you’ll need to reduce their hours accordingly.

ThatGladTiger · 22/04/2025 17:10

Cancel the contract and no refund. This is in line with the agreed terms. Don’t overcomplicate this or second guess yourself.

Do not let him bully you into anything other. You need to be a bit tougher in business.

If he persists write him a message saying you will be blocking him if he messages/rings you again due to harrassment.

Do you have liability insurance? Call them and ask for their advice.

Good luck 💪🏼

Whynotaxthisyear · 22/04/2025 17:13

I can't think you would want to work with these people. If they have signed up to a minimum of 3 months, I would remind them they are obliged to pay for 3 months but offer as a concession to allow them to call it quits now provided they stop contacting you. No refunds though.

sheldonRockz · 22/04/2025 17:15

if you are nervous then it would be recommended you seek legal advice to ensure your t&c’s are fair and enforceable if you are unsure, but if your t&c’s stipulate no refund, then surely you don’t refund.

You can evidence you have already incurred reasonable costs - e.g onboarding process started, constant queries from the customer, changed contracted hours of an employee to manage the expected increased workload.

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LavenderFields7 · 22/04/2025 17:15

Sheesh you sound like you’ve had a lucky escape! I would issue 2 months refund, and put it down to a learning experience. Vetting clients is so hit and miss 🫤

saltinesandcoffeecups · 22/04/2025 17:41

You have a few choices

  1. stick to your contract- This will come with bad reviews and hassle from them. But honestly any company/business will get this eventually. You created this model for a reason so I don’t know why you’re backing away from it now that you’re presented with the situation.
  2. Offer a concession to get them to go away- A partial refund but keeping the fee for the work you did including the nonsense calls and emails.
  3. ‘Refund in full just to make them go away - I probably wouldn’t do this because you did work for them and it undervalues your worth. Also sets a bad precedent.

I would go with #1 or #2 in that order.

SummerInSun · 22/04/2025 17:53

Agree you have dodged a bullet and don’t want to work with them. I’d say that they are contractually committed to paying for the next two months BUT you will on this occasion agree to cancel the contract and not pursue them for payment if they agree to non-disparagement, ie that they won’t post or say anything negative about your business. You are unable to return to money already paid as it is committed to meet costs that you will incur as a result of the cancellation.

ScaredOfDinosaurs · 22/04/2025 18:22

saltinesandcoffeecups · 22/04/2025 17:41

You have a few choices

  1. stick to your contract- This will come with bad reviews and hassle from them. But honestly any company/business will get this eventually. You created this model for a reason so I don’t know why you’re backing away from it now that you’re presented with the situation.
  2. Offer a concession to get them to go away- A partial refund but keeping the fee for the work you did including the nonsense calls and emails.
  3. ‘Refund in full just to make them go away - I probably wouldn’t do this because you did work for them and it undervalues your worth. Also sets a bad precedent.

I would go with #1 or #2 in that order.

Agree with this. You shouldn't give a full refund because of the costs genuinely incurred.

And FGS stop being a pushover. You're an employer and you have a responsibility to yourself and your employees to toughen up, to safeguard their future employment.

This person is batshit crazy and you've dodged a bullet.

NancyBellaDonna · 22/04/2025 18:35

Maybe the potential client has had a look at his finances and panicked. Given the state of the world markets and financial confidence at the moment he might have thought his cash flow wasn't up to it. Better to cancel the contract now rather than have a larger bad debt further down the line.

I know a few people whose businesses have just come to a standstill because of the volatility in the US and China/Far East.

SummerinSun has given excellent advice.

Comefromaway · 22/04/2025 18:38

its tough luck. No refund. They’ve sighed a contract.

YourFairCyanReader · 22/04/2025 21:48

It sounds like their circumstances have changed and they can't afford to pay you. And/or the guy is a bit unorthodox in his decision making, to say the least.

I would personally keep the first payment he has made, as you've incurred costs. I would give him a credit for the other two payments due. BUT - REALLY IMPORTANT - email him to say you are crediting him two months as a goodwill gesture but that having reviewed the matter you are happy you provided the services agreed to. You're sort of saying you don't have to but you've chosen to, to be nice.

It's really important you don't just let him complain and get a refund, as this could be seen as acknowledging that you didn't provide your part of the bargain, or worse, and if he is going down a rabbit hole this could leave you exposed.

You could alternatively hold out for the other two months payments as per contract, take to small claims court etc but it doesn't sound like you want to risk the fallout from this.

And unfortunately if you don't have enough work for your new hire you have to let them go. No point having them if you don't have the revenue coming in. Not your fault the guy messed you around

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