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Will rape victims still have to call their trans woman rapist she

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ImConfusedDotComHelp · 20/04/2025 16:46

Will rape victims have to say she raped me with her penis?

Will rape victims be able to call their rapist he him male now, since they really are not women.

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ImConfusedDotComHelp · 20/04/2025 16:46

https://thecritic.co.uk/she-her-or-else/

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PinkiOcelot · 20/04/2025 16:50

If he has got a penis, then he is a male regardless of what he identifies as.

Helleofabore · 20/04/2025 16:52

I hope that women can now freely use precise and accurate language whenever they need to.

I think that over the past few months with so much of the UK hearing the reports (or actually watching) the NHS Fife tribunal, so many people have realised that this all seems to come down to philosophical belief.

And no one should have to comply to another person’s philosophical belief.

Because to be a person with a transgender identity is not based on having gender dysphoria. There are certainly some people with gender dysphoria, but we have been told by professional academics as well as trans people themselves that there is no medical condition needed to be a transgender person at all.

Therefore the only commonality for people with transgender identities is that their philosophical belief.

Meaning no one needs to comply with another persons philosophical belief. No one.

No matter how kind or respectful that person who is trying to shame you into complying tells you that it is to use the preferred language, it is someone who is demanding that you support their own philosophical belief.

Pronoun demands are very harmful to the needs of female people and children.

Accurate language is vital to ensure adequate safeguarding is being upheld and many other aspects of life. Including ensuring that children and women can properly describe the people causing them harm, including rapists, those who assaulted them, abused them and so on.

Any person declaring that preferred pronoun usage is harmless, seems to only be focused on individual people. They are ignoring or dismissing the collective harm being done. They are also not considering another person's belief at all, only expecting everyone to believe in what they believe.

You, general you, are totally free to choose to base your own language on using the sometimes centuries old established meanings of words and the established protocols of language that are based around sex. Not someone's identity.

Using preferred language around describing someone is based on someone else's demand to believe in their philosophical belief. It is purely up to you.

What no one should get to do, is to shame others for not supporting your belief if they do not choose to. No one gets to infer / imply or to directly state it is ‘disrespectful’ in anyway to use accurate language that has commonly understood meanings amongst the majority of the population.

ImConfusedDotComHelp · 20/04/2025 16:56

PinkiOcelot · 20/04/2025 16:50

If he has got a penis, then he is a male regardless of what he identifies as.

I agree but will the female victim have to respect the preferred pronouns of the rapist?

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ImConfusedDotComHelp · 20/04/2025 16:57

Helleofabore · 20/04/2025 16:52

I hope that women can now freely use precise and accurate language whenever they need to.

I think that over the past few months with so much of the UK hearing the reports (or actually watching) the NHS Fife tribunal, so many people have realised that this all seems to come down to philosophical belief.

And no one should have to comply to another person’s philosophical belief.

Because to be a person with a transgender identity is not based on having gender dysphoria. There are certainly some people with gender dysphoria, but we have been told by professional academics as well as trans people themselves that there is no medical condition needed to be a transgender person at all.

Therefore the only commonality for people with transgender identities is that their philosophical belief.

Meaning no one needs to comply with another persons philosophical belief. No one.

No matter how kind or respectful that person who is trying to shame you into complying tells you that it is to use the preferred language, it is someone who is demanding that you support their own philosophical belief.

Pronoun demands are very harmful to the needs of female people and children.

Accurate language is vital to ensure adequate safeguarding is being upheld and many other aspects of life. Including ensuring that children and women can properly describe the people causing them harm, including rapists, those who assaulted them, abused them and so on.

Any person declaring that preferred pronoun usage is harmless, seems to only be focused on individual people. They are ignoring or dismissing the collective harm being done. They are also not considering another person's belief at all, only expecting everyone to believe in what they believe.

You, general you, are totally free to choose to base your own language on using the sometimes centuries old established meanings of words and the established protocols of language that are based around sex. Not someone's identity.

Using preferred language around describing someone is based on someone else's demand to believe in their philosophical belief. It is purely up to you.

What no one should get to do, is to shame others for not supporting your belief if they do not choose to. No one gets to infer / imply or to directly state it is ‘disrespectful’ in anyway to use accurate language that has commonly understood meanings amongst the majority of the population.

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I agree if you are raped it's a male doing it. If they say call me female then it's a further assault.

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Helleofabore · 20/04/2025 17:10

Following on from my post, on another thread recently a woman has been vilified and demonised by posters for replying to the interviewer about a male person using correct sex pronouns when in an interview about female sexed based needs and the Supreme Court result.

Posters were falling over themselves to point out how abusive this woman was.... while missing the fact that the male person on the panel that was referred to had during the panel discussion announced that they had had sex with a man who did not know until after the sex had happened that the person they had sex with was male and not female as the sex partner had thought.

And when this was pointed out on the thread, there was nothing said, just more emoting about how abusive the woman was. There was no acknowledgement that if the sex partner of this male person decided to report that person to the police, the male person could be charged and maybe convicted of sex by deception.

This is the point that we have reached with situation. It is fucking grim. The need to vilify people for choosing to not use the demanded language that doesn't follow the established English language conventions that others want to use is still all too prevalent.

It is really really concerning when you see it. And it is really really concerning when you see what some people will ignore about the people they are defending to vilify those who refuse to use that demanded language.

MissMoneyFairy · 20/04/2025 17:15

ImConfusedDotComHelp · 20/04/2025 16:56

I agree but will the female victim have to respect the preferred pronouns of the rapist?

Hopefully not, "my rapisr" or "my attacker " should be enough

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ImConfusedDotComHelp · 22/04/2025 15:54

ImConfusedDotComHelp · 20/04/2025 16:46

Will rape victims have to say she raped me with her penis?

Will rape victims be able to call their rapist he him male now, since they really are not women.

Well 92% voted to say that rape victims shouldn't have to say her, she, to their rapist with the 'female' penis.

Thanks for contributing. Rape victims need protection from all rapists and rapists shouldn't control speech of the victims. Biological men are men.

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Helleofabore · 22/04/2025 16:47

ImConfusedDotComHelp · 22/04/2025 15:54

Well 92% voted to say that rape victims shouldn't have to say her, she, to their rapist with the 'female' penis.

Thanks for contributing. Rape victims need protection from all rapists and rapists shouldn't control speech of the victims. Biological men are men.

Fucking hell! Seriously? 8 % disagreed?

edited... it was 2 people. But still.... 2 people think this?

ImConfusedDotComHelp · 23/04/2025 00:32

Helleofabore · 22/04/2025 16:47

Fucking hell! Seriously? 8 % disagreed?

edited... it was 2 people. But still.... 2 people think this?

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Yes 2 people think it's OK for rape victims to be forced to call their rapist woman.

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ImConfusedDotComHelp · 23/04/2025 00:34

Somebody must have thought it's OK to force a rape victim to call their rapist she her a woman because its happens in real life. Madness and sick. In real rape trials.

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