To think Keli Lane should not have been convicted of the murder of her baby?

[XelaM]

Just watched the documentary about Keli Lane on Prime.

My mind is completely blown by how a someone from a nice middle class family who was a prominent athlete could continuously keep getting pregnant nearly every year and hide all her pregnancies, continue competing at international level in a tough sport and seemingly all the adults in her life just ignored it? But why did she not start using contraception after the first times she had (very late term) abortions and then an adoption? Wtf is wrong with her? And it appears she wasn't getting pregnant by an adult abuser (which would have explained the crazy behaviour) but by different boyfriends same age as her.

Having said all that, I don't think she should have been convicted of murder when there was absolutely zero evidence that the baby died. If Casey Anthony was found not guilty, how on Earth did Keli Lane get convicted??

Guess I'm the only on who watched it

I watched it. Tbh I think she did something to the baby but I don’t think that’s there’s anything like enough evidence to convict her of killing it. I can’t buy into the whole I don’t know who I gave my baby to

It's so odd though as she gave up the other two kids for adoption, so why would she not have done the same with this one? Or just left it at the hospital? Surely so much easier than getting rid of it in a very short timeframe (I think she only had 1 hour between leaving the hospital and getting home)

I haven't seen the documentary but just read up on the case. I'm guessing that there's a lot more to the case than we know as her behaviour is very strange.

I couldn't find any information on her mental health, past trauma or mental capacity. I'm assuming that didn't come up in the trial.

It's completely bizarre. She appeared to be a very popular pretty girl from a middle class family who was also an extremely talented and successful athlete. Nothing indicates that she was in any way abused or had any mental health issues. But clearly she did as her behaviour is beyond insane! She kept getting pregnant nearly every year and either having late term abortions or giving up the babies for adoption without saying a word to anyone. It's completely mad. Throughout this she continued living her life as if nothing was wrong.

Why didn't she just use contraception?!?

That screams sexual abuse to me. That she was suffering from trauma, hence all the pregnancies and sleeping around. Apparently all the pregnancies were with different men.

The first two pregnancies were with her then boyfriend (the same age as her) but she only told him about the first one. The second one she had terminated at over 20 weeks(!) without telling him or anyone else.

Then she had another secret pregnancy with another guy also the same age as her and gave up that baby for adoption - again without telling anyone.

Then she has another secret pregnancy from an unknown guy (she claims is an affair partner Andrew Norris) and gives birth to another baby that is the subject of the court case as the baby then disappears. At this time she was also dating and sleeping with a prominent athlete (also the same age as her). She doesn't tell him or anyone else about this baby.

Then she goes on to have another secret baby from also a guy the same age as her (but a different guy completely) and also secretly gives this baby up for adoption.

Then she goes on to have a baby that she keeps with yet another boyfriend (I think they get married afterwards).

Why was she not using contraception?? And what made that baby who disappeared different to all the other ones that she gave up for adoption? Why would she kill this one baby but not the one before or after? None of this makes sense.

In the meantime she also plays waterpolo for the Australian international women's team that won Silver at the World Championships and she played the final whilst being 9months pregnant!! Wtf?!?

I'm currently watching it and she comes across as nuts. Not a lot of it makes sense and her parents come across as idiots.

Her boyfriend didn't notice she was heavily pregnant. Her parents didn't notice she was pregnant and gave birth twice.

Her coaches on the swimming team didn't notice she was heavily pregnant whilst in a swimming costume.

She lied and told men she was on the pill and kept getting pregnant then got upset because she kept having abortions and giving up children.

She didn't answer questions about her missing child to the police or in court. She protected the man who took her baby Morris/Norris when speaking to him could have saved her a prison sentence.

I'm still watching though.

I've finished watching and think something is up with her family. Apparently she was scared of telling them about the pregnancies but they come across as very gentle people.

However, how people come across to others and how they actually are, are two different things.

She did suffer sexual trauma. She suffered a date rape as a teenager and said it really affected her.

The forensic psychologist said she found no evidence of mental illness, pathological lying or delusion. How would the psychologist know if she was lying?

Why would she give away a baby she felt a connection to (the psychologist said she had a connection to her children) a man whose name she didn't know was his? With no address or way of contacting him?

Yes, her mum seems odd, but to me it still doesn't explain why she never learned her many pregnancy lessons and actually used protection?!

No one asked her that question. It could be due to trauma but how bright was she? There's something not right with her. For example, she's in a rush to leave the hospital because she wants to go to an event.

So she is discharged, gives away her baby to someone she doesn't know very well, then goes to the event. This is the second child she's given away.

I don't believe she gave Teagan to the father in the hospital car park. The police search for him, his partner 'Mel' & the baby was one of the biggest in Australian history. Seriously they did everything possible to find them. She lied over and over again across years.

It's a bizarre case but killing the baby is the most likely scenario. She did have time.

She's currently suing the govt for being raped by a guard in prison. He's already been convicted of similar offences so she could be in line for a substantial payout when she does get out. Her parole was denied under the 'No Body, No parole' laws but she will get out when her full sentence ends.

She lost me with Morris or Norris.

I don't know the case and haven't read about it - my only information is from here. If she had mental health issues/personality disorder/sociopath etc given she was an athlete is it possible that she was using the benefits to physical performance of the immediate time post pregnancy to her benefit but didn't want the baby? I know it sounds mad and it is but there are significant benefits to performance due to increased blood volume, lung capacity etc

Reading only what you’ve written here, it screams trauma. The abortions would have been trauma, the pressure of competition could have been effectively trauma. It sounds as though no one in her life built up a real relationship with her, and she was just valued for her sporting prowess.

I always thought that the whole case is trying to fit a square peg into a round hole. That there was always something missing and still is. I was not and am not comfortable with the verdict but can’t explain why.

Nope. Just an absolute psychopath who murdered her baby. End of.

Boo hoo there might have been something wrong with her.. so what? Oh she had some "trauma"? FFS.

Although the whole Morris/Norris story seems bizarre, it is possible that he gave her the wrong name, which is why police weren't able to locate him. If he was having an affair with her, it is possible he didn't give her the correct details. I just don't think there was enough evidence to convict her of murder without a body or even any proof that the baby was killed.

She's a liar and a complete oddball but there wasn't enough evidence that she actually killed the baby. Why didn't she just give it up for adoption like she did with the others or leave it in the hospital? Why kill this one and not the others?

Ironic that she kept giving away kids because she didn't think she could take care if them and then when she finally kept one - she went to prison for 13 years of her daughter's life.

I've just watched it. It's all very odd. Her parents are very strange. I don't believe for a second her mother didn't notice her own daughter was pregnant multiple times when daily she's in a swimming costume. She just kept repeating that she never wore anything too tight. What's a bloody swimming costume if not tight. Dad seems an oddball.

I just don't understand why she would give one up for adoption, then kill one, then give the next up for adoption. The nurse changing her story is questionable, surely you'd just stick by the original interview and notes you wrote, how would you remember so vividly years later?

If she did give the baby to the father maybe they left Australia when the baby was small. Would you then get in touch after all those years when your wife has raised the child as her own? (As that's basically what Keli is claiming, his wife was there when collecting the baby)

It's all very strange, and she is a weird woman who does seem to carry on with life like nothing has happened, but I think her parents have a lot to do with that.

I am watching the documentary series now. Desperately sad and I think there should be more empathy, not just the horror music and 'horrifying'/'shocking'/'disturbing' angle