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In thinking that a disproportionate number of MNers are overweight/obese?

154 replies

anotherfatty · 16/05/2008 14:07

...according to recent threads and that this is probably because we spend too much time in front of a computer stuffing our faces and not enough time getting off our fat backsides and exercising!

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bonkerz · 16/05/2008 18:57

thanks anotherfatty for oyu comment about me and my kids!

multitasker · 16/05/2008 19:03

Is there any other subject guaranteed to get under the skin of a woman - regardless of her size? It's laughable how outraged the initial responses were. Get over it.

LadyOfWaffle · 16/05/2008 19:06

I am a fatty but I was a fatty before the days of MN so cannot sue How do you know so many MNers are chubbies - I mean there are alot of weight loss threads, but that's really just because people of a ... 'normal' (I don't mean that rudely) weight won't be having a thread about their weight, if that makes sense.

Itsthawooluff · 16/05/2008 19:11

I'm a hefty girl - over 14 stone and 5ft 8", but I can run 30 minutes without stopping, lift a hay bale with one hand, and throw it over my head, almost bend double and put my head on my knees from standing up and can hold onto a half ton horse which is trying to gallop off.

Yes, my BMI is higher than the guidelines. I'd like to be a size 10 and less than 9 stone but it's just not going to happen. If people want to think I spend all my time watching TV / MNetting and eating chocolates and doing nowt, good luck to 'em. I don't give a flying fig.

I have a sneaking nostalgia though for a time when a woman who could wrestle a cow to the ground was not thought of as a lazy cow who could get to look like Sienna if she just tried a bit harder and didn't eat so much. Maybe I'll just have to join a reenactment society - wench frock anyone?

SweetieDarling · 16/05/2008 19:17

"I don't believe anyone who is fat and says they don't care. I do care but need a kick up the a* to motivate myself to do something about it".

Reading between the lines the op is possibly feeling a bit down about herself at the moment (plus the comment about assuming slimming clubs are full of 'glamourous' women).

I would like to say anotherfatty that I have attended slimming clubs and they are full of people of all shapes, sizes and walks of life and most are very supportive and friendly, regardless of what you wear or how glam you look. So if you are thinking of giving it a go, don't be discouraged by what you imagine it's like, go and see for yourself. Good luck if you do decide to follow this path x

TakeMeHome · 16/05/2008 19:20

Sorry, too busy stuffing my face to contribute to this thread !

Ags · 16/05/2008 19:29

As a frequent visitor on the Weight loss threads, I didn't for one second take any offence at the question asked and didn't bother to respond.

However, I cannot let Itsthawooluff's post go without saying what a fabulous image she has given me of her lifestyle. It sounds like you live on some futuristic farm run by amazonian women with superpowers. I love it! Have you thought about writing a book?

anotherfatty · 16/05/2008 19:54

Hi, just got back. Brilliant image 'itsthawooluffs', also agree with xenia that size 16 is probably 'fat' but size 26 is defo! Don't want to offend any ladies and you are all lovely regardless of size.

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itsahardknocklife · 16/05/2008 20:02

hullygully, my heart bleeds for you

Judy1234 · 16/05/2008 20:03

Some people live in cloud cuckoo land over their weight.

NHS direct - hardly an inflammatory inaccurate web site says - "If your BMI is between 18.5 and 24.9 you're an ideal weight for your height. " For 5 foot 5 that is a lowest weight of 8 stone.

A BMI of 18.5 is safe. It is normal healthy weight charts. It is not anorexic, underweight or anything like that.

For 5 foot 5 a weight of 10 and a half stone is safe and healthy too and that is BMI 24.5 or something like that. So when I said my height and between 8 - 10ish stone I was right. Now I am about 9 and look better at that than 10 stone for sure and at under 9 in a bikini (after 5 children and being 46 etc) and if you're a stone over weight - say 11.7 you aren't likely to be keeling over with a heart attack but once you get well above that I think everyone realises you'd be better off slimmer.

The UK has a massive obesity problem at the moment. I think it's partly because people eat too many junk foods and if they ate low GI and GL foods they would be better. I lost a stone not because I ate less at all but because I cut out junk food. What I also found was for the first time I didn't catch colds this winter too. Just look at the women coming out of the FLDS ranch in Texas in that child custody case - they eat a normal healthy diet of meat, carbs, veg. They don't eat the modern American diet. They are all healthy looking. With the Kuna Indians on islands in Panama 18 months ago we also saw an entire community where no one was fat - it was quite an amazing sight. They live on fish, veg and plantains and I think brown rice.

On the point about now more fat peopleo n the planet than starving there was this from 2006 from the BBC site which is what I remembered

"Overweight 'top world's hungry'
Overweight person being measured
The number of people overweight has topped 1bn across the world
There are now more overweight people across the world than hungry ones, according to experts.

US professor Barry Popkin said all countries - both rich and poor - had failed to address the obesity boom.

He told the International Association of Agricultural Economists the number of overweight people had topped 1bn, compared with 800m undernourished.

Speaking at an Australian conference, he said changing diets and people doing less physical exercise was the cause.

Professor Popkin, from the University of North Carolina, said that the change had happened quickly as obesity was rapidly spreading, while hunger was slowly declining among the world's 6.5bn population.

The biggest increases are being seen in parts of Asia with certain populations more susceptible than others
Professor Tony Barnett, of Birmingham University

He told the conference at the Gold Coast convention centre near Brisbane: "Obesity is the norm globally and under nutrition, while still important in a few countries and in targeted populations in many others, is no longer the dominant disease."

He said the "burden of obesity", with its related illnesses, was also shifting from the rich to the poor, not only in urban but in rural areas around the world.

China typified the changes, with a major shift in diet from cereals to animal products and vegetable oils accompanied by a decline in physical work, more motorised transport and more television viewing, he added.

anotherfatty · 16/05/2008 20:10

Totally agree Xenia, also I notice that when I lose weight my skin, eyes look better also. We are in denial about this problem in the Western world any most won't admit to gluttony. (I do - but I'm not proud of it)

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anotherfatty · 16/05/2008 20:10

and not any

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Confidentialnamechanger · 16/05/2008 20:15

That's right Xenia but you said 18 was "normal" and that people look "pretty good" at that.

The NHS website says 18.5 which you just quoted, meaning 18 is NOT in the ideal weight range

I think you just proved your own point

anorak · 16/05/2008 20:16

I am a little overweight.

But I always imagine all of you as being perfectly formed, utterly beautiful, accomplished, well-dressed and educated and marvellous mothers living in gorgeous homes

mylovelymonster · 16/05/2008 20:17

Why do you think a disproportionate number of MNers are overweight? Would it not simply reflect the general population?

PosieParker · 16/05/2008 20:26

Speaking as someone who has been very underweight and looked frightful I accept that over eating is as significant an issue as under eating, but greedy is greedy and lazy is lazy!! Just as aspiring to be Cheryl Cole or Posh Spice is very fucked up!!!

Judy1234 · 16/05/2008 20:34

I meant 18.5 not 18 but people at the bottom but within healthy weight seem to get castigated and yet one study found being 18.5 was actually the ideal, not the top of the range. (Mind you another found those a stone over the top healthy BMI lived longest so that might comfort our fatter bretheren....)

The UK has a huge obesity problem. It does not have a huge anorexia problem and it does not have vast numbers of people under 18.5 BMI who are desperately trying to get over that.

If you're average height and 8 - 10 stone you're fine. Actaully we ought to look up average height because 5 foot 5 might now not be average compared to 1950.

policywonk · 16/05/2008 20:43

Those Popkin figures are interesting (and surprising), but the obese (300 million) do not outnumber the starving (800 million). (The overweight (over 1 billion) do outnumber the starving, but I don't think being overweight is in any way as serious as being starving.)

However, I accept the general point that obesity is a growing problem, while starvation seems to be on a downwards trend.

bluewolf · 16/05/2008 20:45

I read somewhere that its actually about proportions. Apparently if your head circumferance is bigger than your wrist you should count yourself lucky.

anotherfatty · 16/05/2008 20:48

I think it is obscene to be fat if someone else is starving. No-one forced me to be fat!

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anotherfatty · 16/05/2008 20:50

bluewolf - I don't think anyone's wrist circumferance is bigger than their heads is it? I might be wrong!

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Judy1234 · 16/05/2008 21:11

We do have food shortages and price rises particularly for products such as rice and other staples at the moment so may be the 1 billion overweight and obese will reduce below the 800 million starving. But it certainly surprised me. If I'd had to guess I'd have said 80% of people on the planet were in place where it's hard to get food and many were underfed in China, India and Africa and instead we have more overweight and obese over the whole planet than starving. This will be the first generation to live shorter and more health problems than their parents ever simply because they eat such a bad diet and are so fat.

But I'm not saying it's easy to get off junk food (a lot of it is addictive) nor easy to lose weight. It's not.

duchesse · 16/05/2008 21:36

Surely "waist"? Not wrist- that would utterly gross.

PosieParker · 16/05/2008 21:57

duchesse, I think it's wrist and the other proportion is if you leg is longer than the circumference of your ankle then you're fine!!

hullygully · 16/05/2008 22:02

why don't we all admit we hate fat people because they clearly lack self control and enjoy themselves far too much (apart from bulimia etc)

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