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To think there are no real perks to driving an electric car?

344 replies

MyHeartyBlueShaker · 15/04/2025 15:46

You’d think there would be more incentives - cheaper parking, easier charging access, or some kind of priority. But in reality, it often feels like there are just extra costs and hassle. What are the actual rewards?

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Tryingtokeepgoing · 16/04/2025 15:40

EilishMcCandlish · 16/04/2025 11:53

They really, really aren't. There were over 750 publicly available chargers at the end of last year in Cornwall. And more are being installed all the time.

I used to think the same way, completely believed the industry propaganda about chargers being infrequent. Husband decided to get an EV and we have never had a problem charging away from home. I am completely converted. It is a far more enjoyable driving experience.

Yes, exactly that. A quick look at ZapMap shows me that there are around 160 public chargers within 5 miles of my W Sussex home, which is at least 3 and probably 4 times as many as there are petrol pumps in the same area. 20 ~ 25% of them are fast chargers. Charger availibility is a non issue. I did 26,000 miles in my EV last year across the UK and France without a moment of stress

The cost of public fast chargers is higher than domestic electricty, for sure. But most people rarely use them and even if you do, on a cost / mile basis they are similar in price to running a petrol car. Google tells me that petrol is £1.35 a litre, so at the 33mpg my last petrol car did that's 19p a mile. The fast chargers in the same location are 72p / KwH - and at 3.8m miles / KwH that's 19p a mile as well. There are more economcial petrol cars and there are more economcal EVs than mine. The economics are similar however you look at it. Diesels are more economical but, rightly is a noxious fuel that is taxed much higher and increasinlgy being legislated out of urban areas but again, on a cost / mile basis its just not an issue

Sure, in rural Scotland availibility will be more of an isue - but that's also true for petrol stations...

Chersfrozenface · 16/04/2025 15:49

A quick look at ZapMap shows me that there are around 160 public chargers within 5 miles of my W Sussex home, which is at least 3 and probably 4 times as many as there are petrol pumps in the same area. 20 ~ 25% of them are fast chargers.

That means that 75 - 80% are slow chargers. Which take between 6 and 12 hours to charge up one EV. One petrol/diesel pump will fill up between 36 and 72 ICE vehicles in that time, allowing 10 minutes per vehicle - and it rarely takes that long to fill up and pay.

Tryingtokeepgoing · 16/04/2025 16:09

Chersfrozenface · 16/04/2025 15:49

A quick look at ZapMap shows me that there are around 160 public chargers within 5 miles of my W Sussex home, which is at least 3 and probably 4 times as many as there are petrol pumps in the same area. 20 ~ 25% of them are fast chargers.

That means that 75 - 80% are slow chargers. Which take between 6 and 12 hours to charge up one EV. One petrol/diesel pump will fill up between 36 and 72 ICE vehicles in that time, allowing 10 minutes per vehicle - and it rarely takes that long to fill up and pay.

Well yes...but only 31% of EV drivers use a public charger regularly...whereas 100% of ICE car drivers visit a petrol station :)

Chersfrozenface · 16/04/2025 16:17

Tryingtokeepgoing · 16/04/2025 16:09

Well yes...but only 31% of EV drivers use a public charger regularly...whereas 100% of ICE car drivers visit a petrol station :)

Because 69% of EV drivers mostly charge at home, having off-road parking. As we have seen from this thread.

Almost 40% of households don't have off-road parking. Those who can't charge at work would have to use public chargers exclusively.

For people like our household, EVs don"t yet work.

NoBinturongsHereMate · 16/04/2025 16:26

slow chargers. Which take between 6 and 12 hours to charge up one EV.

Fully charge. Most people don't let the battery run to zero, and you don't usually need to charge it to 100% (indeed like a phone battery it's recommended that you don't routinely do so).

Charging 'snacks' can be done while doing your shopping, walking the dog etc to keep it full enough for most purposes, with a bigger charge only needed when planning a long trip. It's a different way of thinking about fuelling a car.

And a slow charger would fill most cars between someone arriving at and leaving work.

Chersfrozenface · 16/04/2025 16:33

Charging 'snacks' can be done while doing your shopping, walking the dog etc to keep it full enough for most purposes...

We don't use the car for shopping. We don't have a dog.

And a slow charger would fill most cars between someone arriving at and leaving work.

If one commutes by car (we don't) and if there's a charger available at work or nearby.

EVs don't fit everyone's lifestyle.

MrsAvocet · 16/04/2025 16:48

EVs don't fit everyone's lifestyle.
No, they don't. And if you don't want one, don't get one. Just don't spread misinformation.

TizerorFizz · 16/04/2025 16:48

@NoBinturongsHereMate A lot of the fast chargers don’t charge the car sufficiently. A car magazine found they didn’t charge in the advertised time and it just leaves people hanging around or with a battery below expectation. EVs certainly don’t meet every lifestyle and are often best as a runaround. Ours is basically this. It’s not our choice for longer journeys.

Chersfrozenface · 16/04/2025 16:50

MrsAvocet · 16/04/2025 16:48

EVs don't fit everyone's lifestyle.
No, they don't. And if you don't want one, don't get one. Just don't spread misinformation.

General "you" or specifically me?

Because I haven't spread any misinformation.

AprilBunny · 16/04/2025 16:51

I’ve had an electric car and only had to use a slow charger twice, it’s really easy to find fast chargers.

mafsfan · 16/04/2025 17:07

TizerorFizz · 16/04/2025 16:48

@NoBinturongsHereMate A lot of the fast chargers don’t charge the car sufficiently. A car magazine found they didn’t charge in the advertised time and it just leaves people hanging around or with a battery below expectation. EVs certainly don’t meet every lifestyle and are often best as a runaround. Ours is basically this. It’s not our choice for longer journeys.

Whereas an EV would always be my choice - runaround car, commuting car, holidaying car, rental car abroad. I’d always choose an EV given the choice. Was given an ICE courtesy car by the garage the other week. It was bloody awful and the kids did nothing but complain about how loud it was.

PinkSparklyPussyCat · 16/04/2025 18:01

mafsfan · 16/04/2025 17:07

Whereas an EV would always be my choice - runaround car, commuting car, holidaying car, rental car abroad. I’d always choose an EV given the choice. Was given an ICE courtesy car by the garage the other week. It was bloody awful and the kids did nothing but complain about how loud it was.

It's a shame EVs aren't louder. I thought they were supposed to make a noise now but they are still too quiet. DH is partially deaf and struggles to hear them and surely it must be awful for anyone blind or partially sighted.

Hoppinggreen · 16/04/2025 18:05

PinkSparklyPussyCat · 16/04/2025 18:01

It's a shame EVs aren't louder. I thought they were supposed to make a noise now but they are still too quiet. DH is partially deaf and struggles to hear them and surely it must be awful for anyone blind or partially sighted.

Ours and those of our neighbours are quite loud in reverse

Whatsgoingonherethenagain · 16/04/2025 18:06

PinkSparklyPussyCat · 16/04/2025 18:01

It's a shame EVs aren't louder. I thought they were supposed to make a noise now but they are still too quiet. DH is partially deaf and struggles to hear them and surely it must be awful for anyone blind or partially sighted.

weren’t they supposed to be introducing some sort of drive noise?

we’ve had issues here with blind/deaf people having near misses, guide dogs as well struggling with them.

as a cyclist I don’t like them as quite often I don’t realise there’s one behind me and when I check it gives me a fright to find a ton of metal close to my back wheel or have one suddenly appear in my peripheral vision to overtake. I rely on hearing quite a lot when preparing to turn or make a manoeuvre and it’s disconcerting to say the least.

PinkSparklyPussyCat · 16/04/2025 18:23

Hoppinggreen · 16/04/2025 18:05

Ours and those of our neighbours are quite loud in reverse

My hybrid is noisy in reverse but pretty much silent going forward.

Celebratethesun2020 · 16/04/2025 18:28

It’s so so much cheaper than petrol. That alone. hope that helps.

Chersfrozenface · 16/04/2025 18:37

Celebratethesun2020 · 16/04/2025 18:28

It’s so so much cheaper than petrol. That alone. hope that helps.

Only if you can charge at home.

From a Which? survey dated February 2025.
https://www.which.co.uk/reviews/new-and-used-cars/article/electric-car-charging-guide/how-much-does-it-cost-to-charge-an-electric-car-a8f4g1o7JzXj

Public ultra-rapid charging typically costs 79p per kWh, so 25p per mile.
For comparison, the cost to refuel a typical large petrol or diesel SUV is 16p per mile.

QueefQueen80s · 16/04/2025 19:04

They sound great but it’s yet again frustrating that people with money get to run a car cheaply while people on low wages have to buy petrol.

mafsfan · 16/04/2025 19:14

Whatsgoingonherethenagain · 16/04/2025 18:06

weren’t they supposed to be introducing some sort of drive noise?

we’ve had issues here with blind/deaf people having near misses, guide dogs as well struggling with them.

as a cyclist I don’t like them as quite often I don’t realise there’s one behind me and when I check it gives me a fright to find a ton of metal close to my back wheel or have one suddenly appear in my peripheral vision to overtake. I rely on hearing quite a lot when preparing to turn or make a manoeuvre and it’s disconcerting to say the least.

All EVs have had to emit a noise when travelling below a certain speed (20mph?!) for quite a few years now. There’s also the noise they make on the road (tyres etc). I’m not sure why it wasn’t 30mph to be honest as that would have made sense for driving in residential areas.

Cakeandusername · 16/04/2025 19:43

Love mine. It’s really nice to drive and quiet. Only ever charged at home. It’s easy and cheap to charge just plug in on drive. Don’t miss having to go to petrol station. I don’t do much mileage. Been further in husband’s and charged on go with no issue (Scotland and Lakes)

ConstanceM · 16/04/2025 20:01

Gustavo77 · 15/04/2025 15:51

Ease and pleasure of driving
Being massively cheaper to run. I get 250miles for just over £3
Not having to go into petrol stations
Very little to go wrong in electric cars
Servicing only every three years
Decent road tax pricing

I could go on but suffice to say, I'd never go back to a mechanical car.

-They weigh over 2 tonnes and will destroy the roads and your driveway (eventually)
-Your house (even with a charger attached) may still not create enough current to fully charge your car due to your local grid.
-The infrastructure for charging E cars is appalling which leads to further range anxiety
-There is NO WAY you are only paying £3 for 250 miles..
-Its a national scandal, do you bit by going Hybrid but self charging only.
-Thanks

HelplessSoul · 16/04/2025 20:05

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2025/04/16/electric-cars-breaking-down-more-than-petrol-vehicles-aa/

"Motoring association says belief in better reliability of EVs is a ‘common misconception’

Electric cars break down more often than petrol and diesel vehicles, the Automobile Association (AA) has warned.

Jakob Pfaudler, boss of the breakdown service, said electric vehicles (EVs) were prone not only to punctures and flat batteries, but also to a host of specific problems such as jammed charging cables and technical glitches.

He said: “There’s a common misconception that electric vehicles break down less frequently than petrol and diesel vehicles.

“Currently, at least, that is not the case. The breakdown rate is, in fact, slightly higher for electric vehicles than for internal combustion-engine vehicles.”

Edmund King, AA president, added that EV drivers were often flustered by the technology and respond to warning lights by immediately shutting down their cars on the roadside.

That is unlike petrol motorists, he said, who were more likely to drive to the nearest garage when confronted with an oil pressure alert.

However, Mr King added that around 90pc of breakdowns involving EVs could be dealt with at the roadside versus 86pc for regular cars, with technicians able to fix problems such as computer glitches through a simple reboot.

Instances of EVs catching fire because of issues around their lithium-ion batteries were also rare, he said, while call-outs for vehicles running out of charge have fallen from 7pc of AA’s total to around 2pc. That is largely thanks to the increased roll-out of chargers across the UK, although the percentage is still twice the amount for conventional cars running out of petrol or diesel.

The AA said it had been forced to spend more than £10m over the past two years to train its 3,000 employees to a level where they can assist EV drivers and deal with the cars’ high-voltage equipment.

The firm has also invested in a programme analysing data and software from EVs to better understand issues surrounding the health of motors and batteries.

However, Mr Pfaudler said he was reluctant to commit too much money to EVs given the recent drop in sales.

He said: “EVs still don’t have a very high penetration in the UK. We need to make sure we don’t train people with something they will only apply once in a blue moon.”

Dealing with EVs that cannot be fixed at the roadside is also a headache, since the vehicles have no neutral gear and cannot be towed.

An AA technician invented what the organisation called a free-wheeling hub, which can be fitted to the rear wheels and allows them to turn.

The weight of EV batteries also means some cars cannot be moved using the AA’s standard towing trailer, which is limited to a two-tonne load. It has forced into investing in upgraded equipment capable of towing a 3.5-tonne vehicle as a result."

TizerorFizz · 16/04/2025 20:11

@mafsfan Probably some bargain basement thing. I doubt it was a whisper quiet Range Rover.

I found my 2 hybrids and now EV are not heard by anyone. We are around 15-20 mph here and no pavements. No obvious “engine” noise. A bit of a whine maybe. Have got back from our day trip with 96 miles spare. So we need to stop to get to Cornwall. I would not get to the Lake District either.

Youneverknowwhatyourgonnaget · 16/04/2025 20:13

I have one on lease through my company. I would never buy one. It is lovely to drive but I just don’t think they make much sense. The cost of replacing the battery alone would put me off buying one. The replacement battery could cost more than the cars worth. Also I have had a few instances of charging my car and the nx morning the electric has tripped and I have no charge which would be a nightmare if you had to say get to a airport and havnt got time to charge. We drove to London last year and couldn’t find a charger on the way home which made my anxiety go through the roof. Finally found one, there was 2 chargers and only one available luckily otherwise we could of been there hours then we had to go and have a coffee while we waited which we didn’t want we just wanted to get home. And I think the whole saving the planet argument is ridiculous and is a massive con. People don’t mind kids mining for lithium for the battery and importing them from china and then having the battery put in landfill after 10 years as long as they feel virtuous driving them! I’m not convinced

Youneverknowwhatyourgonnaget · 16/04/2025 20:17

Oh and in the winter I lose about 80 miles when it’s cold…ridiculous

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