Tarot readings- yay or nay

[irenestubbs]

Just that-
would you have one and believe it or is a load of old tosh

I’ve read tarot for years- it totally depends what you want? It doesn’t give dates, times or specifics about your situation like a clairvoyant would but it gives guidance according to where you are at this current time. It can support with decisions and affirmation and give you an idea of what’a next.
Lots of people will say it’s rubbish etc but I don’t mind them. It’s like any set of beliefs, you base them on your own experiences.

Isn’t it interesting that whenever anyone gets an accurate and helpful reading from any sort of clairvoyant, they can’t talk about it because it’s “too outing”…..

I was a fairly successful tarot reader for a few years. I had most of my customers from celebrity psychics.

Regular customers included an investment banker, lawyers, IT Girls, people in corporate roles. I also had a screenwriter, a man who was in car sales and a couple of doctors. One was a specialist in an LA rehab centre, another in renal care.

These customers found it useful and reassuring to come for readings. I assume they did as they come back over and over again!

The Guardian ran an article last year about Tarot as a coaching and wellbeing tool; it is exactly that. There are universal themes in all our lives. The tarot tells the story of these through archetypes and symbols. Through our intuition we interpret what we see and share this with the person who is enquiring.

Is it a load of tosh or is there something in it? I think people take what they want. From time to time extraordinary things happen during a reading. This is what keeps people curious and why people still use it.

I have lost some of my skills now as there's a level of fitness involved in being a good reader, just like any discipline or craft.

Anyone can get some tarot cards but reading them is an art. Go to a good one then it's a Yay!

I assume you're referring to my post? In which I already put a couple of things that she had said in my post in case you missed that? 🤦‍♀️😂 I simply don't fancy saying one of the very specific things that she said as its something that I've told quite a few friends and if they read my post, they'd likely know who i was and could find previous posts etc.

Well. I went to one years ago when I was about to meet my partner's children for the first time, and she said that his two DDs would make friends with me very quickly but his son who is much younger had a 'long, long road ahead of him and many problems to face.' I had told her the sexes and ages of the children but nothing else - I didn't know anything else really, except things like what sports they enjoyed and their favourite TV programmes.
The clairvoyant was right on both counts; the girls coped very well with having me in their lives and the other challenges that growing up brought, while DS turned out to have a serious and longlasting mental health problem that had not been diagnosed at that point and still makes his life very hard.
I still think that somehow she picked something up that I didn't know myself, and therefore had some kind of genuine gift. I also think there's a load of false claims in that area and many vulnerable people exploited.

Tarot cards are not about fortune telling, they are about synchronicity and meaningful coincidence. Done properly they will give you a fascinating insight into your own psyche and the subconscious mind

My neighbour does them for free for me i like the weekly ones problem is the big proper ones have stopped me doing things that are predicted. One said my marriage would end when I was miserable so I worked harder onit to avoid that and stayed another 7 years. More recent ones simular and again I've worked harder to try to improve things but the inevitable happens so wasted more time. Anyways they are accurate but I'd buy your own and follow instructions and read the book. I like past present future. Haha told me what I did wrong in my marriage current situation and long term

@CurlewKate

I'm sure that happens with some people, but I've never heard of that being the case.

In the occult/witchcraft/pagan communities, people often openly talk about clairvoyant experiences that they've found to be helpful.

I do want to challenge this idea that anyone/everyone who does Tarot readings (or other clairvoyant work) professionally is a fraud.

Fraud is when someone is intentionally deceiving someone. And yes, there are Tarot readers/clairvoyants to who that applies.

However...as an occultist, I spend time in the occult, witchcraft and pagan communities, and have got to know a number of people who practice some kind of occultism as their full time job. All of these people take their practice/subjects seriously, really believe in its validity, and really believe in the effectiveness of what they do.

That isn't fraud - that's sincere practitioners working in good faith. And what they're doing is work; they're giving up their time and getting compensated for it, same as any other worker doing a task.

Amusing as entertainment, can be accidentally useful if you assess your psychological reaction to the claims, complete bollocks in terms of predicting the future.

Purely as an entertainment perspective, it's fine.

But for vulnerable people who genuinely believe it, it's exploitative and the people who charge to lie to their faces are scum.

The fact that some of these fraudsters believe their own 'special gifts' doesn't make it any better.

@MarketPaper

It does mean that they aren't committing fraud, though.

Fraud is when someone is intentionally/deliberately deceiving others.

Those who really believe in what they are doing are not trying to deceive anyone. They're working in good faith.

I'm someone who aspires to practice some form of occultism as a profession one day, and I certainly don't want, or intend, to deceive anyone. I take occultism seriously and believe in the effectiveness of these practices.

I'm not a great believer, but I think anything that makes you feel better - about yourself, about taking future decisions - isn't necessarily bad. Does it matter, essentially, whether Tarot cards or readers are 'real', if they help you make up your mind and give you confidence to take decisions?

As a bit of fun absolutely, but I wouldn’t plan my life around readings.

You can believe with all your heart that drinking bleach cures covid. Doesn’t mean it’s not murder if you pour them a glass and tell them to drink it….

@CurlewKate

According to the Law, Fraud is deliberate dishonesty, so Tarot readers and other occult workers who are not deliberately being dishonest are not committing fraud.

I'm not sure if the scenario you give would definitely count as murder (in the legal sense) if the person really did believe that drinking bleach would cure someone of their covid. Again, according to the law murder requires either the intention to kill or to cause serious bodily harm.

If someone seriously thought that drinking the bleach would help the other person, then it probably would not legally qualify as murder and would perhaps fall under manslaughter.

Yes I tell friends and anyone interested about my readings! Most people who are into these things do. I just don't want to give full details on here as it's pretty specific and it'd be obvious it was me to anyone reading who I'd told about it irl. I have posts/threads associated with this username that I'd rather people irl didn't start raking through as they're quite private.

I used to read tarot and angel cards and after a few years I put them in the bin outside, but I wish I'd burned them in retrospect. Absolutely no way would I dabble with them ever again.

I have lots of tarot decks (and other oracles), mainly for the art, partly for the history - the history of playing cards is fascinating.

I wouldn't pay a reader, but that's largely because why would I pay someone for something I could do myself if I wanted to. They have been useful in helping me look at situations from a different angle or point of view, as well as storytelling and meditation.