AIBU to take child with chicken pox to an outside event today?

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Husband has one opinion and I have another. WWYD?

Day 5 of chicken pox for oldest child.
I have 2 other younger children with no signs as yet. But neither have had in the past so probably will get it.

Some scabs starting to form but also still some fresh spots.

Today is booked to go to an outside running event (for kids) this afternoon and we have paid £60 total for this with all children. It was booked mainly for the oldest one who loves to run, but the younger ones will also come and enjoy so I had to buy tickets for all. Outside run with parents, refreshments, few little stalls etc.

Unfortunately oldest one knows about event and has been excited all week - told him about it 2 days before CP started so didn't know to withhold the info.

Would you still take him? Planning on going just for the run, will try to avoid being too close to others. Don't know any other children / parents going so not going to be "chit chatting". Won't go to the stalls / mix and mingle. Will do run then leave.

Husband has one opinion and I have another. WWYD?

Perhaps be vaccinated before getting pregnant

Because people ignore advice if it doesn't affect them and secondly people with chickenpox are infectious before spots come up (nasal spread)

It's not stupid when there can be severe results if chicken pox infection. I'm currently working with someone who had the varicella virus in early pregnancy and she is waiting to see what the effect of the virus will be on her unborn baby.

Here you go
https://aaronshearingcare.com/the-link-between-hearing-loss-chickenpox/

But not everyone gets it as a child. I managed not to get it until I was 31 and 30 weeks pregnant. I was spectacularly and dangerously ill. It was horrible. As this is an event for children, there will be at least one parent per family and a larger proportion than in the general population of them will be pregnant women. It is not worth the risk to others.

Goodness just tell him no. If he wants to run he can go in the garden. The real point is what sort of even is £60 for kids to just run. That’s your bad there if you’re sincere about loosing the money.

Your child has an active case of one of the most contagious human viruses and your other children are likely to be incubating it and are therefore infectious. No, of course you don't go. Put your parent big pants on.

It’s not free though.

The AI explains why you can't risk giving it to pregnant women:

Chickenpox (varicella) during pregnancy can pose risks to the unborn baby, particularly if contracted during the first 20 weeks. If a pregnant woman contracts chickenpox early in pregnancy, there's a small risk of fetal varicella syndrome (FVS), which can cause birth defects. Additionally, if a mother gets chickenpox close to the time of birth, the baby may develop neonatal varicella, a potentially serious infection.

Symptoms:
FVS can cause birth defects, such as abnormalities of the skin, brain, eyes, limbs, and other organs.

Absolutely this. Completely inconsiderate and potentially harmful for the kid if they run competitively while ill.

Yes, I expect so. Just does seem a big coincidence. Logically I know you're right. Just a bit odd.

Yes, and if it did occur, it would be temporary, as the varicella vaccine very significantly reduces the incidence of shingles in the recipients in later life. The temporary risk could be limited by vaccinating the older population against shingles, which is now widely available.

Interesting. Guess it didn't work well for her though 😬😁

Someone with chicken pox can't give someone shingles.

Deliberately taking infectious children out knowing you can make people sick is very different.

Sorry if I’ve missed the point. Would a child with chickenpox want to run?

The data don’t support what you’re saying.

But based on that unless we have universal immunization we should be encouraging virus circulation in young children so the vast majority get it young when it’s usually more mild? Like the old chicken pox parties? I don’t agree with it - I think it should be included in national immunization programmes but if you don’t vaccinate and try to keep exposure down you’ll get more late onset cases which are more severe? By the way I’m not supporting taking infectious children out, but chicken pox is complex.

No of course you dont go and if you go and knowingly expose vulnerable people for your own benefit you're a major CF

I think your husband just needs to come on here and apologise to us all for even thinking this. It’s the only way.

She probably worried and panicked herself into the shingles emerging from its hiding place by mentally suppressing her immune system.

@ needspaceforlego it was chickenpox

Me too! I have several DC and tested negative for rubella antibodies each pregnancy. Despite being vaccinated as a teenager and after each birth. Never met anybody else either!

My ds had shingles age 3 after chickenpox age 6 months. Was misdiagnosed as eczema to start with

Talking about coincidence is ok.
Making it the person fault for ‘panicking herself into having shingles’ is shit to say the least.

I hope you’ll never struggle with a health issue only to be dismissed and gaslighted for it ‘being all in your head’. We really need to stop this nonsense.