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AIBU?

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Improvement and support plans

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Kettom · 11/04/2025 18:11

I'm seeing lots about people put on plans at work to improve performance and this resoundingly being called out as bullying. I'm not in a position to put anyone on a plan like this myself, but do know it's the next step (from my manager) for someone who reports to me. I don't particularly relish being part of something that can utterly ruin someone's confidence - whether from how they will be treated or the anticipation and uncertainty of what it means. Is it unanimously an underhand tactic by bosses, and if not, why do strangers on forums rush to defend workers and reassure them they don't need it and it's not them?

Background of the person in question is refusing to do parts of her job, leaving things and not mentioning them until the last minute so someone senior has to drop everything else and save the day, complaining to managers and colleagues about responsibilities outlined in her job description, demanding things planned and put in place for her before she will attempt, demanding time to have things explained at length, failing to read correspondence so interrupting other meetings and tasks when she can't manage, crying when given coaching, arguing with senior staff and swearing at and insulting people behind their backs and to their faces, which has been disciplined.

However, we don't have time to do her job for her and she's unwilling to do it, and she's still not being held accountable for improving, but is being genuinely supported above what is reasonable. When management take the next step, I'm sure she'll feel hard done by and be told by anyone she cries to that it's not her fault, but I can't help but feel it really will be and the decision hasn't been taken lightly.

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howdoyoudooooo · 11/04/2025 18:15

I’m not sure what your AIBU question is.

No, performance plans are not unanimously considered underhand or bullying or unfair. They’re necessary in some circumstances. Most people at our organisation who go on one end up resigning because they can’t or won’t improve their performance or they overestimate their own performance so refuse to recognise any problem. However I have coached someone through completing a PIP successfully so it’s not always the end of the road.

WhateverMate · 11/04/2025 18:18

What makes you say they're unanimously considered underhand or bullying or unfair?

I've never heard of this.

I've heard 2 people at my work moaning they've been put on a plan, but quite frankly the pair of them are ridiculously lazy and no-one knows quite how they've managed to keep their jobs at all.

saltinesandcoffeecups · 11/04/2025 18:23

Huh?

Tho OP is really incomprehensible. Was there a question in all of that?

Kettom · 11/04/2025 18:24

howdoyoudooooo · 11/04/2025 18:15

I’m not sure what your AIBU question is.

No, performance plans are not unanimously considered underhand or bullying or unfair. They’re necessary in some circumstances. Most people at our organisation who go on one end up resigning because they can’t or won’t improve their performance or they overestimate their own performance so refuse to recognise any problem. However I have coached someone through completing a PIP successfully so it’s not always the end of the road.

I think maybe the AIBU changed as I wrote. I kind of wondered why all I see is unwavering support for anyone whose performance is questioned (by those who appointed staff and are responsible for developing them) as if the workplace must always be at fault. I don't really feel this can always be case, like in my example where I'm genuinely trying to help someone more than should be necessary (making my own role much harder), but this isn't being properly engaged with and is leaving us no choice but to make it more official and serious.

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saltinesandcoffeecups · 11/04/2025 18:29

Kettom · 11/04/2025 18:24

I think maybe the AIBU changed as I wrote. I kind of wondered why all I see is unwavering support for anyone whose performance is questioned (by those who appointed staff and are responsible for developing them) as if the workplace must always be at fault. I don't really feel this can always be case, like in my example where I'm genuinely trying to help someone more than should be necessary (making my own role much harder), but this isn't being properly engaged with and is leaving us no choice but to make it more official and serious.

Because a lot of people only have the perspective of being on the employee side of working and haven’t supervised or managed before. Then you’ll have people with supervisory or management experience, but haven’t had an underperforming employee yet.

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