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To wonder what happens? Parents of Children commit serious crime.

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PassingStranger · 11/04/2025 13:38

Not sure if anyone will know but.
In cases where children/teens commit serious crime/murder do the parents get to keep their other children if they have them?

Do they go into care, or are they subject to any parenting orders or anything..
Just wondered?

For example James Bulgers killers, if they had younger siblings do they stay with the parents?

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PassingStranger · 12/04/2025 16:37

Quite a few siblings end up.in the prison system.

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homemadebasilpesto · 12/04/2025 22:19

PassingStranger · 12/04/2025 16:37

Quite a few siblings end up.in the prison system.

Yes, it can be a family thing but that's not necessarily always going to be true.

Also, it would be interesting to know how much impact the stigmatisation of being a sibling of someone who committed a serious crime, and the treatment of them by society, contributes to a sibling taking a wrong path in life.

Whatevershallidowithmylife · 12/04/2025 22:27

missmollygreen · 11/04/2025 15:00

Of course it does.
No child is born evil.

Thats not to say it is always the parents. There is so many outside influences. But that all counts as "upbringing"

I believe the opposite.

BertieBotts · 12/04/2025 22:34

You cannot blame a murder on the parents of a murderer any more than you can blame a murder on the wife of the murderer because she cheated on him, or the husband of a murderer because he was abusing her for the previous ten years.

Those things might be given as extenuating circumstances and cases of abuse might be investigated as their own crimes, but you can't put blame for a crime onto another (unless they are e.g. a gang boss manipulating others, but that's not what is being discussed).

ARichtGoodDram · 12/04/2025 22:36

I know a family with 3 now grown up children. The parents both worked, were good people and 2 of the kids were studious, went to university, now have decent jobs, families etc, and the other became a drug addict at 17 and died of an overdose many years later. All raised in the same house. The surviving family all wonder what happened to their deceased child/sibling that made them turn out that way. It's a huge shame for everyone involved

That's similar to the questions my grandparents were left with.

4 children. All lived in a nice area and went to decent schools. Daughter got a good job and has a nice house/family etc. The 3 boys all had apprenticeships, got decent jobs, 2 joined the military one stayed in decent job. The 2 in the military had families, did well. One was later killed in a car accident.

The third was my father. Decent job, nice house, married and had 3 children. My mother had a similar upbringing. Then somehow ended up a drug addict. I was the 4th child and by the time I was born they both had drug and alcohol problems and my father had turned into a violent abuser. To the point we were removed by my grandparents when I was 7 and despite lot of DV being brushed under the carpet in the 70s and 80s they were supported in taking us.

No idea what got him into drugs and the life he then opted for.

Unexpectedlysinglemum · 12/04/2025 23:44

They would balance if the child would be better off with their parents, with other family or in care.
Look at the sister in adolescence. Do you think she'd be better or worse off away from her parents?

Unexpectedlysinglemum · 12/04/2025 23:44

TomatoSandwiches · 11/04/2025 15:42

I think it may depend on the type of crime and the age of the child.
But usually there will be some SS involvement, even if it's cursory safeguard concerns for other children in the family.

There were significant reports about the families of James Bulgers killers, none of it very palatable.

Youth offenders social workers will always be involved with the criminal child

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