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“Punching the wall is just as bad as swearing”

38 replies

ToddlerSleep · 09/04/2025 17:44

DH and I have just had a bad argument and he’s making out that I’m equally to blame. I feel like I’m going crazy.

We have DS6 and DS3. I worked today and DH looked after them today. DS3 can feed himself with a spoon but often chooses not to, and we end up feeding him.

On to today. DH told me this afternoon that DS cannot feed himself, because he refused to feed himself today (turns out it was something he didn’t want to eat). I said he can feed himself, we have seen him do it, and he will often feed himself when I am doing lunch with him, DH has seen him do it and has praised him for it. DH was adamant that no that’s not true, DS cannot feed himself. This just kept going back and forth. I got angry that he wouldn’t believe me and swore. I think I said something like “for f’s sake aren’t you listening to me, he can feed himself!!” DH got angry and punched a kitchen cupboard so hard that buttons stuck to children’s art work which were on the cupboard fell off. He really scared me.

I told DH to go out for a walk and calm down, he refused saying that it’s his house. I said I would call the police and he still refused. I was scared and sent the children upstairs to stay there, he tried to follow them and said he had a right to access his own children. We went into our bedroom and locked the door, but he kept trying to get in saying it’s his house and his children too, pushing against the door and unlocking it from the outside, and putting his foot in the way so I couldn’t shut it. So I sent the children downstairs into the living room and went with them, and put a chair in front of the living room door so he couldn’t get in, and turned the TV on for them. He kept trying to come in and kept saying not to do this, I am making things worse, it’s his house, he has a right to the children, I’m breaking up the family etc. Eventually I let him in and he apologised to the children and said none of us need to be scared of him and he wouldn’t hurt us. Then he asked them if I also apologised to them for swearing in their earshot.

Then he sat in the living room with us. I asked him to go somewhere else as I felt uncomfortable and he refused, saying it’s his house too and his children and he has a right to sit where he wants. I told him that’s very selfish to sit there knowing I don’t want him there, and he said I’m the selfish one trying to keep him away.

He’s telling me punching the cupboard door is no worse than me saying “for f’s sake”, that it’s no more violent or aggressive than what I said, and that it’s my fault for him reacting that way because I swore, and I did it on purpose to goad him.

Please tell me I didn’t overreact and his behaviour is not normal.

OP posts:
IPM · 09/04/2025 17:50

I mean it's just an awful, terrible situation all round and the kids must've been terrified, not to mention your poor 3 year old may have real issues around food and mealtimes going foward.

To answer your question, punching the cupboard door was worse than swearing, but is that really here or there in this sorry tale?

I don't really know what else to say other than you two really need to get it together for the sake of your children.

This sort of thing should never happen again.

Ponoka7 · 09/04/2025 17:51

You should have phoned the police. His was an act of violence and is counted as DV. This is going to escalate. Don't hesitate next time.

Maitri108 · 09/04/2025 17:54

Punching a cupboard is intimidation in order to get you to shut up. It could easily escalate so I would get in contact with a domestic abuse organisation and get advice.

I'm assuming that he's abusive in other ways so it would be good to discuss it with a professional.

No, swearing is not the same as physical aggression.

Pigeonqueen · 09/04/2025 17:56

Ponoka7 · 09/04/2025 17:51

You should have phoned the police. His was an act of violence and is counted as DV. This is going to escalate. Don't hesitate next time.

This. It’s not just the punching the wall but refusing to allow you space away from him. It’s escalating and it’s dangerous.

Lavender14 · 09/04/2025 17:58

No op you are not being unreasonable and his behaviour was abusive. He didn't stay after to make it better he stayed to control your reaction because you were trying to stand up to him when he took it too far. What he did was assault and I think you should still phone the police and make plans to leave safely with your children. I'd also report him to social services for assault in front of your children that must have been terrifying for them op and unfortunately you're now left in the shitty position where you need to take action to leave to keep them safe. This will only escalate - the fact he's taking no accountability while at the same time gaslighting you to make you think you were at fault for saying a swear word is classic abusive behaviour. Please, please leave him. You can't fix this and you can't make an abusive relationship better.

user1471538275 · 09/04/2025 17:58

Act now and protect your children. Act now because it is going to get worse.

He's blaming you for his actions. So you 'made him do it'.

https://www.nationaldahelpline.org.uk/

Call them. They will help you.

You and your children deserve a life free from fear and violence. If you don't act them you are complicit in harming your children - experiencing DV is harm to them.

Homepage - National Domestic Abuse Helpline

Are you experiencing domestic abuse? You are not alone. Find out how the National Domestic Abuse helpline can support you.

https://www.nationaldahelpline.org.uk

Lovegame · 09/04/2025 17:59

You can still call the police.

Lavender14 · 09/04/2025 17:59

In fact the police would actually see this as high risk because he refused to let you leave which is also false imprisonment it's very high up on the risk warning system for domestic abuse. You really really need to go and please log this with police. The record with them will help you with housing, keeping your children safe and especially if it escalates in future and you need their help.

NerrSnerr · 09/04/2025 17:59

You need to sort this out now. The children cannot live in this environment, imagine how scared they must have felt.

I would book into a travelodge/ premier inn tonight with the children, have an adventure with them. Call the police and report the incident- he cannot be forcing himself into the room with the children etc. I would also contact social services. It's really possible the children will tell someone at school/ nursery anyway so it will go via social services at some point anyway and it's good for you to be proactive to show you're trying to protect them.

soarklyknobs · 09/04/2025 18:01

Please record this incident with the police.

DV tends to escalate, scarily rapidly and if you already have a report with the police they’ll (hopefully) attend quicker next time which you’ll definitely want should his physical abuse extend to you or the dc.

ToddlerSleep · 09/04/2025 18:12

I am not imprisoned in my home and I can leave at any time so please don’t worry. I wanted him to go out for a walk to calm down and he refused, so I wanted him to stay away from me and the children and he refused that too.

The children were scared. DS6 said he doesn’t like his dad. DH said it’s my fault and that I’m scaring them and lying to them. I asked what I said that was a lie and he couldn’t say anything, but said my tone of voice when talking to the children was insinuating things eg I was telling the children they don’t need to be scared of him to keep them calm, and he said that was one of my lies because the tone of voice I used implied they need to be scared of him. As if 3 and 6 year olds have the emotional
intelligence to read into things like this.

OP posts:
BobbyBiscuits · 09/04/2025 18:24

He's an abusive twat and you should part ways.
He sounds unreasonable, childish, stubborn and frankly a pain to be around.
Of course physical violence is worse than swearing.

Maitri108 · 09/04/2025 18:26

You can contact the National Domestic Abuse Helpline or the Refuge webchat which is open till ten. Both in this link.
https://www.nationaldahelpline.org.uk/

Gustavo77 · 09/04/2025 18:26

Neither of you behaved well in front of your children. Ordinarily I'd say that punching a wall is worse but cumulatively, both of your behaviours were dreadful and both frightening to the children. You both need to apologise to them and get your respective acts together so this NEVER happens again!

Ponderingwindow · 09/04/2025 18:31

Your husband is engaging in domestic violence. Don’t let him try to twist this around into an argument between equals.

you need to start thinking about your long term options. Not only is he likely to do this again, he will almost certainly escalate as time goes on.

Your children will be forming neural pathways where fear is their default response. That is how they will come to view home life. Even if you can’t protect them completely, they need to be in a situation where at least some of the time they are guaranteed a peaceful existence.

Octavia64 · 09/04/2025 18:32

This was domestic abuse op.

i’m really sorry.

chattyness · 09/04/2025 18:33

Punching the cupboard door is a violent threat, he's showing you what could happen to you when he loses it.This is the 1st red flag and it's just the beginning, the second one was refusing to leave and asserting his dominance over you in front of the children and now they are scared. Get some help to have him put out and change the locks or get yourself and your children out to somewhere that you feel safe.

bettydavieseyes · 09/04/2025 18:33

Are you scared of your partner OP? Is this the first time it's happened? You locked yourself in a room with your kids so it sounds like you don't trust him?

NerrSnerr · 09/04/2025 18:35

He is dangerous, especially as he is not accepting what he has done. This time he punched a wall, next time it might be you in front of the children.

Please consider reporting this to the police. Your children deserve to live in safety.

Orangemintcream · 09/04/2025 18:36

His behaviour was domestic violence. You should still call the police.

I would bet my house there are others “things” he does that are abusive too.

Your children deserve better

SnowflakeSmasher86 · 09/04/2025 18:40

NerrSnerr · 09/04/2025 17:59

You need to sort this out now. The children cannot live in this environment, imagine how scared they must have felt.

I would book into a travelodge/ premier inn tonight with the children, have an adventure with them. Call the police and report the incident- he cannot be forcing himself into the room with the children etc. I would also contact social services. It's really possible the children will tell someone at school/ nursery anyway so it will go via social services at some point anyway and it's good for you to be proactive to show you're trying to protect them.

I was going to say the same. Get in front of it before your 6 year old tells someone and you end up being questioned about it.

AngryBookworm · 09/04/2025 18:40

Another of those posts that start with what sounds like a husband being a bit of a dick and ends up with what is absolutely an abusive situation. Punching a wall in anger would never be okay but chasing your terrified wife and kids around the house is a different level and a healthy person would recognise that if your partner is shutting themselves and their kids away from you in fear, something has gone very wrong. As PP have said, you need to leave this now - it's only going to get worse.

mathanxiety · 09/04/2025 18:41

You should have called the police.

You need to make plans to get away from this man.

He was angry that he ended up looking after his own children all day and decided to insinuate that you're a bad mother to your child. Essentially he picked a fight with you to provoke a reaction, then engaged in a display of rage which was designed to make you think twice about leaving him to parent for a day. He punished you and he intimidated you.

Following you upstairs and then down again, breaking into the room where you were with the children, and then making a big display of an apology along with the statements about his rights and declaring that nobody had the right to judge him by his actions but instead by his intentions is pure narcissistic abuse.

How do you feel about leaving him with the children again?
How do you feel about saying no to him any time in the future?

Do not sweep this under the carpet.

Make plans to separate and leave. He is an angry and controlling piece of work.

WaterLoadedGun · 09/04/2025 18:42

Your poor children.

I was in a similar situation and got out for them. You need to see what's going on. Talk to anyone you can about his behaviour and please call the police. They will protect you.

SnowflakeSmasher86 · 09/04/2025 18:44

FWIW my ex who started with punching walls and squeezing my hand a bit too tightly when I asked him to loosen his grip went on to strangle me and bite my face.

Shut this shit down now, tell the police, get him out, make sure there’s a record of his aggression.
It may seem like overkill to you now, but he sounds the type to try and take the children away from you in anger so you need legal recourse if he does.