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Universal studios on my doorstep

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Queenofkittens · 09/04/2025 09:33

So universal studios have been given the green light to go ahead and plan a park in Bedford. I actually live in Wixams, the newer village and have done for the past 5 years. Universal studios will be right on my doorstep and I'm not sure how I feel about it. One part of me is excited to have something so close that will be great for the kids and so on and the other part of me is dreading it. The traffic for starters. Also, I'm aware that house prices (including mine) are set to increase meaning we will have definitely made some money on it but we weren't planning on staying forever as we ideally need a larger house so our boys don't have to share a room. However, I understand we won't be able to afford a bigger house in wixams but will I even be able to buy a house in Bedford at all? Are the prices going to be so ridiculous that I won't be able to live here (which I have for the last 31 years!). Does anyone think I'm being silly (AIBU) or would you genuinely be worried? (YANBU)

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Feelingstrange2 · 10/04/2025 22:12

Langdale3 · 10/04/2025 22:09

I went to the Florida one 25 years ago and it was shit. How much of the profits will stay in the UK?

The profits don't really matter.

The VAT on tickets will. The employment earnings will. The employment and business taxes will. The money spent on services in the UK will. The initial capital spend will have a large proportion spent in UK, I'd have thought.

foxlover47 · 10/04/2025 22:21

Local to us aswell and I’m really looking forward to it for my daughter etc as she will be of working age by then so the job Opportunities will be a lot better

LikeWhoUsesTypewritersAnyway · 10/04/2025 22:33

I don't blame you for being worried/concerned @Queenofkittens .

My DH's cousin (who we are both close to,) used to live not far from Alton Towers, 10 minutes drive or so, and yep, the traffic was horrendous on weekends from March to October, and during school holidays. Bumper to bumper for MILES sometimes! It was the volume of traffic, that was one of the reasons she and her family moved away. It wasn't as bad when she first moved there, but as Alton Towers got bigger, and more popular, the traffic got quite horrendous.

Dyra · 10/04/2025 22:43

onewayoryourmother · 09/04/2025 21:07

The Marston Vale line will be superceded by the East / West (Cambridge to Oxford) mainline once that is up and running. Bletchley to Oxford will be sorted this years, but there is much to do to transform the Marston Vale line. I hope all of it happens, East West and Universal will both be great for the area.

As a theme park enthusiast couple living at the Oxford end of the line with 2 small kids who will tweens by the time Universal UK is built, we really hope the East/West mainline will come to fruition within that time.

Woodburnerisout · 10/04/2025 22:45

I'm snorting at Flambards in Cornwall being on a par with Universal 😜

JungAtHeart · 10/04/2025 23:41

I lived in a village that was hugely impacted by the development of Wixams. I left as soon as it was given the go ahead. Nothing stays the same …

CountryQueen · 10/04/2025 23:51

Langdale3 · 10/04/2025 22:09

I went to the Florida one 25 years ago and it was shit. How much of the profits will stay in the UK?

The year after islands of adventure opened? It was epic! Flambards on the other hand 😂

Universal studios on my doorstep
Snakebite61 · 11/04/2025 08:54

Clearinguptheclutter · 09/04/2025 09:38

it doesnt have planning permission yet

I live in a place where it’s very likely a huge housing estate will pop up next door and vastly change the local community so get the angst

when the planning permission comes there will probably be a local consultation of sorts so make sure you get involved. The local mp almost certainly will.’

economically it’s likely to be good for the area (and probably house price) - my main concerns would be
a. Environmental (what are they going to destroy to build it)
b. Traffic
c. Construction noise and access eg in our situation we may end up with construction traffic going past our house for years

Starmer says it's going to be built, it will.
The tories overrode planning permission all through their 14 years. If the government wants it, it's built.

Clearinguptheclutter · 11/04/2025 08:56

Snakebite61 · 11/04/2025 08:54

Starmer says it's going to be built, it will.
The tories overrode planning permission all through their 14 years. If the government wants it, it's built.

I agree it’s very likely. Perhaps I’m naive but there will still be an opportunity for locals to question the plans and find out exactly how they will be impacted

redpaperstar · 11/04/2025 09:30

Clearinguptheclutter · 11/04/2025 08:56

I agree it’s very likely. Perhaps I’m naive but there will still be an opportunity for locals to question the plans and find out exactly how they will be impacted

This has already happened! They had open days/ q&a sessions for the public. And 92% (I think) of local residents were in favour of the proposal. It’s been rumoured for a couple of years, and on the news now because it has been confirmed it will be going ahead.

Piggywaspushed · 11/04/2025 10:40

It was 92% of those who attended the figure is somewhat tenuous. Did you go?

Piggywaspushed · 11/04/2025 10:44

I think one of the issues is the park straddles two MPs and two councils. Bedford Borough and the Bedford MP (and Mayor) are all very excited. The park itself takes in Bedford Borough and Central Beds and the constituencies of a Labour and Tory MP. I don't know the views of the latter two but they seems to have little to do with it. I do know if you contact the Mid Beds MP, he redirect you to Bedford Council. I can't help but think that it straddling two authorities like this was helpful to Universal.

TunnocksOrDeath · 11/04/2025 10:55

I used to have friends living in Chessington, the park there gave locals some sort of free entry deal for the household to keep them happy. The road gets busy sometimes, but for most of the year it's really not that bad. I think overall they weren't negatively impacted, but Chessington is well within the M25, so if the park wasn't there, it would be something else.

BlumminFreezin · 11/04/2025 11:03

TunnocksOrDeath · 11/04/2025 10:55

I used to have friends living in Chessington, the park there gave locals some sort of free entry deal for the household to keep them happy. The road gets busy sometimes, but for most of the year it's really not that bad. I think overall they weren't negatively impacted, but Chessington is well within the M25, so if the park wasn't there, it would be something else.

Chessington is 130 acres with 1.5 million annual visitors.

This will be 500 acres with 8.5 million annual visitors.

I don't think anyone in the area commenting positively can have any real concept of just how massive it will be and just how overwhelmingly busy everything nearby will get.

Honestly, if I lived anywhere near it I'd be making plans to move ASAP. The only exception would be if I was planning on moving out of area at some point anyway - then I'd possibly stick around for the rocketing property prices first.

BlumminFreezin · 11/04/2025 11:04

TunnocksOrDeath · 11/04/2025 10:55

I used to have friends living in Chessington, the park there gave locals some sort of free entry deal for the household to keep them happy. The road gets busy sometimes, but for most of the year it's really not that bad. I think overall they weren't negatively impacted, but Chessington is well within the M25, so if the park wasn't there, it would be something else.

Chessington is 130 acres with 1.5 million annual visitors.

This will be 500 acres with 8.5 million annual visitors.

I don't think anyone in the area commenting positively can have any real concept of just how massive it will be and just how overwhelmingly busy everything nearby will get.

Honestly, if I lived anywhere near it I'd be making plans to move ASAP. The only exception would be if I was planning on moving out of area at some point anyway - then I'd possibly stick around for the rocketing property prices first.

BirraMoretti · 11/04/2025 11:28

Beenthroughit · 10/04/2025 19:45

That park and ride doesn't work properly because there are very few buses that go there, and they don't go on a Sunday either.
If there were more regular buses if would be a great resource

It’s also expensive compared to park and rides that go into cities with decent shops - Bedford town centre has very little now. There are a few decent independents but the main street is a dump, I feel uncomfortable walking through it.

Piggywaspushed · 11/04/2025 11:32

It's so sad what has happened to Bedford and I feel it's too late to save it. Every major retailer has gone.

BirraMoretti · 11/04/2025 11:32

I live nearby and am in two minds - great if my house value increases (although I don’t understand why it would) but the traffic and chaos while it’s being built won’t be much fun for locals.

Piggywaspushed · 11/04/2025 11:51

BlumminFreezin · 11/04/2025 11:03

Chessington is 130 acres with 1.5 million annual visitors.

This will be 500 acres with 8.5 million annual visitors.

I don't think anyone in the area commenting positively can have any real concept of just how massive it will be and just how overwhelmingly busy everything nearby will get.

Honestly, if I lived anywhere near it I'd be making plans to move ASAP. The only exception would be if I was planning on moving out of area at some point anyway - then I'd possibly stick around for the rocketing property prices first.

To answer my own question upthread, I attended a consultation. They were marketing soft soaps, and actually quite aggressive in their positivity what with the local mayor, councillors and MP (all present) all telling us it will be wonderful and even the nearest school being used for marketing opps (PM was there last week).

It all felt a bit brainwashy. It was difficult to answer their 'questionnaire ' in a way that didn't appear mildly supportive. A similar thing happened with the incinerator 'consultation'. So their high level of alleged enthusiasm from locals is dubious to me. The Facebook site of my village is far more split. Mainly men (those I can identify are the boy racers...) and those with young families telling anyone voicing concern to pipe down. The same happens if anyone dares mention a rave in a field - so I can't help but think their default is to tell people they are killjoys. Plus local tradespeole seem hopefully their skills will be used,and I get that. Those voicing concern are long term inhabitants mainly but also people concerned about traffic, construction and the village turning into a place full of rentals. The local borough councillor lives on the main road through the village and , at present, seems very supportive of the plan. He's a nice man but it is true the borough never turns down plans the parish object to.

I think the PP is right that locals are underestimating disruption and a change to the characters of Wootton and Stewartby. Change is inevitable and both have seen many over the last 10 years. But this is on a different scale.

Wixams is a red herring and it's why it keeps being mentioned by publicists. It'll get the big obvious benefit. For those who don't know Wixams is entirely a new build estate with constant construction works and the inhabitants have no real sense of / outlook on traditional Bedfordshire where they are (the PP who moved away had a village also beginning with a W swallowed up so she knows what major construction looks like!). I think OP might actually benefit on your side of the park, to be honest. Traffic aside perhaps.

The reactions to the East West rail link and this have been so different from politicians locally. The Mayor lives in North Beds and has been vociferous and very politically bitchy in opposition to developments that will tear up farmland and countryside in North Beds (I am a total agnostic on this route as it affects me either way). The folks of North Beds have a right to be alarmed and annoyed. However, they keep telling mid Beds people we can't feel the same way about Universal (not saying this of any posters here but there is a long tradition of 'posh' North Beds looking down on lesser south of the river Beds.Some believe there is nothing precious to destroy here).

At the consultation and in the print and TV media afterwards all the enthusiastic quotes came from people in North beds , Ampthill and Flitwick and as far away as Shefford. Our postcodes were taken at the time and I am sure those so far away that they might reap benefit and receive no detriment will have been more unequivocal in their praise. It'd be really interesting to see views broken down by postcode!

Piggywaspushed · 11/04/2025 11:53

Meant to also say, the land in the MK corridor seems increasingly expendable. I can see why it was targeted - it's one giant construction site. I'd love somewhere in more desperate need of rescue and regeneration, such as an area of high coastal poverty , to have been targeted.

ChessorBuckaroo · 11/04/2025 15:12

BlumminFreezin · 11/04/2025 11:04

Chessington is 130 acres with 1.5 million annual visitors.

This will be 500 acres with 8.5 million annual visitors.

I don't think anyone in the area commenting positively can have any real concept of just how massive it will be and just how overwhelmingly busy everything nearby will get.

Honestly, if I lived anywhere near it I'd be making plans to move ASAP. The only exception would be if I was planning on moving out of area at some point anyway - then I'd possibly stick around for the rocketing property prices first.

It's going to be enormous, the biggest theme park in the UK that will have visitors from across the UK and continental Europe. Surely that is positive in itself?

Manchester United (via Foster architects) are also building a 100k stadium that will be visible across Manchester.

These projects have been backed by the government as they are well aware that such attractions from iconic brands (which Universal and Man Utd are) do their bit in helping drive economic growth.

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2025/mar/11/manchester-united-new-stadium-next-to-old-trafford-norman-foster

‘Eiffel Tower of the north’? Manchester United unveil 100,000-seat new stadium project

Manchester United have confirmed their intention to build a new 100,000-capacity stadium ‘footsteps’ from their Old Trafford home of 115 years

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2025/mar/11/manchester-united-new-stadium-next-to-old-trafford-norman-foster

Piggywaspushed · 11/04/2025 15:32

Old Trafford is an old stadium in dire need of renovation. Nonetheless , lots of people think that is nothing more than a vanity project. However, new stadiums do definitely improve the local area on an already existed bit of built upon land (as in the new Spurs stadium). Transport links in Manchester are already very good. I don't think that example is an equivalent at all.

As a local, I am not sure why I am supposed to get excited by visitors just coming in and out , spending money only in the theme park - or the prospect of holiday lets and big hotels springing up on any random bit of land.

ohnowwhatcanitbe · 11/04/2025 15:35

Oh, it will get planning permission all right. They've just last week given permission to expand Luton Airport - so now we know why. Last year there was a major upgrade to a roundabout on the A6 at Clophill, a couple of miles south of Wixams. I read some of the small print in that planning document, and hidden away in small print on page umpteen were the words 'future development'.

The traffic on the roads in the area is bad enough already, and this is only going to multiply the problem tenfold. Anyone local will remember the recent A421 flooding shambles when the road was shut for nearly three weeks, and nothing has been done so far to prevent that issue from happening again.

We're less than 10 miles away as the crow flies, and I can't imagine what a nightmare the construction phase will be for all the people in Wixams, Kempston and surrounding villages (friends of mine among them).

I had been hoping that the Forest of Marston Vale would be expanded to include that site, but that's not going to happen now.

It will bring jobs, but at what cost to the local environment and infrastructure?

ohnowwhatcanitbe · 11/04/2025 15:39

EcoChica1980 · 09/04/2025 11:32

No one likes a NIMBY

You'd feel differently if it was in your back yard, I assure you.

canyouseemyhousefromhere · 11/04/2025 15:50

dnac · 09/04/2025 16:14

It will be great. Swathes of the countryside will be dug up to make way for it and the amount of land concreted over to make the new large scale car parks will be impressive. Then you’ll have the added bonus of some new roads added in with all the added benefits of the noise and pollution that accompanies these things. You’ll reap the rewards of the traffic jams on high days and holidays when people flock to the attraction so you can’t go about your usual business. Plus just imagine the thrill of so much more pointless human consumption, one use plastics and general rubbish that gets generated and thrown away at these sort of sites. The wildlife will love it too. What’s not to celebrate about all of this?

I bet you’re fun at parties.

As far as I know it’s being built on a disused brickworks.

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