Baby born after womb transplant

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https://www.thesun.co.uk/health/34329085/womb-transplant-baby-hope/

I’m not really sure how I feel about this.

On one hand it all seems consensual and fine, and nice that they’re all happy.

On the other it seems yet more expansion of surrogacy-type science, making pregnancy/babies a sort of human right that we should go to any lengths to make possible for people. And all the ethical/moral issues around that.

What do you think?

I think this is lovely, but I do have some concern re living donors, that women will be pressured into undergoing surgeries to fulfil other people's wants rather than for medical need, like a kidney or liver would be.
Its no small thing to donate an organ and where there's the technology, there's also a market on exploiting the poor or the vulnerable.

Who’s worrying? I’m not. Just the way of the world nowadays innit.

I actually thought that what the story was when I saw the headline. So pleased it wasn't. I think it's a lovely story, what sisterly love ❤️
I had no idea cadaver donated uteruses were a thing and there is a charity that pays all the costs.
Amazing

I am happy for this woman that she has been able to do this and conceive and successfully deliver a child (it's already been done on greys anatomy 😂)

Only tiny modifications would be needed to make it a reality for men too, according to world-renowned voices in the transplantation field - quote from Daily Mail - this is the scary bit and sadly the reality of the world we live in

This is true.

However, when I consider the current degree of acceptance of experimental treatments based solely on modifying a body to fit someone’s own philosophical belief about their identity, I don’t hold much hope that clinicians or those demanding these treatments will want to know before doing this.

That is very concerning hopping.

As it is, I think that more work needs to be done around the future health impacts on the children born using these transplants in women. And we are still discovering the extent of lasting negative impacts on removal of healthy uteruses in physically healthy women.

Like growing a lamb in a bag.

It is, but was this necessary?

If trans woman are women then yes it is. As it’s a thread discussing women’s rights to carry their own child

These statements from such men just go to show how utterly clueless so many people are, about basic biology.

Trans women aren't women though, and as such they will never be able to bear children.

A lot of healthcare is not strictly necessary though. Improving someone's quality of life is a worthy aim, is it not?

It's weird AF, out of all of the areas of womens health they could research to improve the lives of women across the globe they chose to invest and celebrate this. Let's be real, it's because somewhere down the line it'll benefit men.

I think in this case its a good thing.They were Sisters ,and it's lovely that One sis did this for her less fortunate sibling.However I dont think it should start a precedent.I dont know if anyone else remembers this .But about 20 years ago two sisters were interviewed, and one was a surrogate for the other childless one . Their Father was adamant ( he was paying for the medical bills) that this should happen .The Surrogate sis looked very unhappy the Dad couldnt see the problem .He made out she was being selfish FFS!

No it won't. Female to male uterus transplants will never be possible.

"tiny modifications"

🤣

Seriously?

It’s lovely and all that but… was it really a free choice of the sister?

It was meant to be the mum, then the older sister until the final sister was the last woman standing in the family after the other two were ruled out for medical reasons. Could she really say no, when her mum and other sister were prepared to do it? Could she really say no and sit there at Christmas with the unspoken judgment floating in the air?

This. The emotional pressure that can exist within families shouldn’t be underestimated.

Heaven forbid the patient’s sister might be capable of making an informed choice to donate her uterus - no, she must have been exploited and bullied into it!

I was an altruistic egg donor and I was not coerced or exploited in any way. I made a choice to use my good fortune in being fertile to help other women who weren’t.

Many of the uterus transplants are from deceased donors anyway.

Also the statistics quoted by a PP on the risk of hysterectomy are for total abdominal hysterectomy - this is the most major type of hysterectomy and will include advanced cancer cases and other complex patients. The risk is much lower for straightforward vaginal and laparoscopic hysterectomies.

indeed it does.

However, whenever this topic is in the news, there are gender experts, researchers and medical specialists who seem to feed the notion that it is possible. There are supposed experts who feed these thoughts.

They say things like, we see in the near future that male people can receive uteruses. Well sure, no doubt that can happen. It won’t be a working uterus but it will be a body part that can be implanted in a body. For how long it will remain there is a whole other story.

But I think these gender experts are not truthful at all when it comes to male people growing another human inside a uterus implanted into their body. However at least some are making those claims in media.

Wonderful for the family.

Should be paid for privately, though.

A "gender expert" isn't the same as a transplant surgeon though.

A transplant surgeon can take a heart or a liver or a kidney or a cornea from one person's body and transplant it into another person's body and get it actually working.

Surgeons who perform "gender affirming surgeries" are, as yet, not even capable of creating a non-functional hole that really resembles a vagina on even a superficial level.

All that money and expertise tied up in this when people are dying whilst on hospital waiting lists. Men next will be wanting this.

They can want it all they like, they won't get it.

Yes. I know.