Baby born after womb transplant

[Wildflowers99]

https://www.thesun.co.uk/health/34329085/womb-transplant-baby-hope/

I’m not really sure how I feel about this.

On one hand it all seems consensual and fine, and nice that they’re all happy.

On the other it seems yet more expansion of surrogacy-type science, making pregnancy/babies a sort of human right that we should go to any lengths to make possible for people. And all the ethical/moral issues around that.

What do you think?

But what about the effects of the drugs the mum has to take to avoid rejection? Even drugs taken after things like kidney transplants have a 20% increase in risks to the baby. Low birth weight and premature being quite common.

i think womb transplants are a good example of the egocentric drive of the want of a baby of your own. When chosing between the risk for the health of the donor, for your own health & for your baby’s health (the only one that cannot consent) and the desire for a child, the desire for a child wins, risking three.

Because no one really cares about the baby, just satisfying the want of the parent.

We transplant other organs. I don’t see why wombs are the exception. I do agree with you however that I am increasingly uncomfortable that babies are seen as a right that anybody should access even if in a terrible circumstance to provide for a child. But this was a logical scientific next step after sperm and egg donation.

(And women being encouraged to willfully become single parents despite this not being in the best interest of the child.)

You might feel differently if you had MRKH or similar.

Nope.

Just because science CAN do something it doesn't mean it should
No need for this at all

Why do so many women need to be so negative about something that is for the benefit of women. We always moan about health care etc being better for men and here we have amazing surgery designed to help women and we are complaining still.

It doesn't just benefit women, does it, also wouldn't class it as womens healthcare which is woefully underfunded, undervalued and underresearched.

The same could be said for marriage, abortion, having children and sex.🤷‍♀️

I think it just adds to the narrative that having babies is the most important and meaningful thing g a woman can do, and that does not benefit women.

Because there's a weird contingent on Mnet who seem ideologically opposed to assisted fertilisation.

Can you explain what you mean?

Some forms of assisted fertilisation don't impact the lives of other women. Love uterine donation does impact the lives of other women.

This is a woman who wanted a baby. I watched it on the BBC news this morning and the main focus was on the woman and her sister with a little bit focused on the dad. Why does everything have to be a battle of the sexes!

Where are you getting that narrative? Women are encouraged to get an education and a career nowadays. And of course plenty women do still want to be mothers!

Unless you are actually in that position you can't possibly know that.

We can not remove the internal pressure a women will feel to potentially put herself at risk for someone else's...

You can't really regulate for familial pressure or coercion?

The same can be said for marriage, abortion, having children and sex.🤷‍♀️

The highest risk in donating a kidney comes from the fact that your remaining kidney might stop functioning.

Women’s achievements tend to get discounted if they are not alongside being a mother. And there is a thread running on the Mumsnetters without Children board about parents’ lack of interest in and recognition of their childless children’s professional achievements compared with their siblings who have children.

Ah yes of course the mumsnet boards, that's a real representation of the whole of society. Are you honestly saying it's a bad thing if women have or want kids? Oh no this is a bad move because it adds to a certain, in your head, narrative around being mothers. Is this where we have found ourselves? Just cant be happy being women, can't advance anything for women.

That's not true. Less than 1% of kidney donors experience kidney failure.

It’s not the wanting of kids that is the bad thing, it’s the lengths it’s becoming acceptable to go to have them.

Ah. Thanks for clarifying.There is no immediate risk of death from marriage and sex. It is estimated that up to 15 percent of women experience reproductive coercion. Which is repugnant. So I'd like to not add to the list of things women feel pressured to do with their bodies.

A transplant of an organ from one human to another. I think the report said for this woman it was her sister who wanted to donate to help her sister and the other UK operations have been from organ donation after death. I personally have no issue with organ donation. I dont care if its an eye, a heart, a womb etc

The transplant medication can cause kidney damage so they don't want you on it for too long. Obviously, if you have a life saving transplant you have no choice but to stay on the medication. Liz is now diabetic and needs regular magnesium ivs (sometimes multiple per week) due to the medication.