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Was my boyfriend within his rights to say these cruel things to me?

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meridiana · 07/04/2025 13:19

This may be long, but I’ll try and keep it short.

I have spent this morning extremely distressed, I’m questioning everything including my worth. I feel like a waste of space, from what he had said. I’m too upset to see the situation for what it is.

BF and I had been a bit on and off, but decided to make this official and things had been pretty much smooth sailing from then. We had one argument, that was resolved after we both agreed it was a misunderstanding.

We’ve had very minor disagreements, but no arguments aside from that until yesterday.

He makes significantly more than me, this around 5x more. We don’t live together. He tends to pay for meals out etc. and likes to treat me with things like flowers, but I have never asked for him to pay for anything. I do also pay for myself for other things too.

When we were shopping he had separated our things and said ‘I’ll put your things separately’ referring to the ingredients for our dinner that I was going to cook. He usually eats the majority of our meals (understandably), so I was slightly irritated by this and told him that, but it wasn’t a big deal.

The next day, he made a lemon drizzle cake with my son (he paid for the ingredients) and said he was going to take it home, since he had paid for it and had baked it. I had pointed out this feels like a bit of a double standard, a bit irritating but again not a big deal. He says that he pays for a lot of things for me, I agreed. He then said he spends about £200 per month on me, for which I categorically disagreed. He said he wasn’t going to buy me anything again.

A few minutes later I asked how long until the cake was done, he told me and I said ok when it’s finished you can leave. I was upset and didn’t want him there.

I heard a bang as he left, and I thought he had thrown my son’s car seat into the house, I text him to say it was childish but he says he didn’t throw it and I believe him.

He sent me a text saying that until I apologise, not to contact him. I said I won’t be contacting him then as I don’t feel the needs to apologise, he said ok. I took this as things ending. I then said something along the lines of ‘enjoy fucking the ladies in Thailand’ (I’m not proud of this) as he’s going there this week. I have been feeling stressed about him going as he went last year, and we weren’t together but still somewhat involved and he slept with many people and lied to me about having feeling for another woman. He was well within his rights to do so, as he was single, but it was a point of vulnerability for me. I feel bad that I even said it, and have apologised more than once.

He said he wasn’t ending things, and then ignored me for six hours while he was with friends, I was really upset by this.

He reached out today via text and said he wanted an apology for kicking him out, I said I wasn’t sorry so I wasn’t going to apologise. I said I didn’t feel I’d kicked him out, just asked him to leave as I felt upset and like the day was ruined.

We have previously agreed that we should tackle things head on, so I wasn’t wrong to ask him to leave but I think because I was so upset from the events of the past 12ish hours I couldn’t see it for what it was. I didn’t feel sorry because I was upset and angry.

He then ended things with me, as he feels I am a poor communicator, I am deliberately difficult and speak to him disrespectfully. He feels I have grossly disrespected him.

Things between us had been really lovely until this, so I was taken aback that he’d ended it.

During these exchanges I haven’t been nasty, raised my voice, sworn etc.

He has now said I am a vile person, I am toxic, I am like a dark cloud of sadness, I’m incapable of being happy, and I am not capable of a healthy relationship because of my ‘parents’ fucked up relationship’ growing up. He has told me to fuck off multiple times, that I’m manipulative.

I’ve told him how hurtful I have found his words, and that I really don’t feel them to be true. I am happy, and lots of people comment on my positivity.

He said “You think your actions have nothing to do with how I’ve been?” when referring to how he has spoken to me.

I really just need a fresh pair of eyes please. I acknowledge I have contributed to this, I should have behaved in a better way. It was a blip, but I didn’t see it as a massive deal.

I am genuinely sorry for how I’ve behaved, and I am trying and want to be a good partner. I feel really guilty that I’ve upset him and pushed him to this point.

OP posts:
ThisFluentBiscuit · 07/04/2025 14:40

He sounds horrible. He's also lashing out at you with all sorts - it's abusive. If you're all the things he says you are, he can just end the relationship kindly. No need to be so awful to you. Also very, very unimpressed that he threw your upbringing back in your face.

He calls you vile and toxic and swears at you, telling you to fuck off multiple times? That is abuse. No loving partner should ever speak to you that way.

And who the hell bakes a cake with a child and then takes the cake away??

Please don't take him back! I know there are many good times, but the true worth of a relationship is how bad the bad times are. What's the point of all the nice bits if the underbelly is this awful?

Jackiebrambles · 07/04/2025 14:41

Good grief. What a waste of energy for everyone. If it’s like this it’s not right! He’s a twat and you are much better off. I’d work on your self esteem a bit to be honest.

Vaxtable · 07/04/2025 14:45

Just stop seeing him. He warns so
much more and is quibling about taking a cake home because he paid for the ingredients but cooked it at yours! Ask him for the cost of the gas:electric!

seriously just leave him, don’t respond and get on with your life

ohnowwhatcanitbe · 07/04/2025 14:45

meridiana · 07/04/2025 13:28

I also meant to say I was wrong for asking him to leave.

Oh no you weren't. It was the very best possible thing you could have said.

Do Not Take Him Back.

tobee · 07/04/2025 14:46

"He usually eats the majority of our meals (understandably)"

This is the bit that stands out for me; why understandably?

Plus, in this scenario, taking home half the cake sounds even worse than the whole cake.

It screams controlling behaviour rather than just stingy

Starlight7080 · 07/04/2025 14:50

This sounds like an awful relationship.
Are you both very young?
Definitely better apart. If nothing else then for your child's sake.

cestlaviecherie · 07/04/2025 14:50

ohnowwhatcanitbe · 07/04/2025 14:45

Oh no you weren't. It was the very best possible thing you could have said.

Do Not Take Him Back.

This.

It is toxic and never going to work. It's not going to change and it will be lot of stress for your child with this man in and out of his life.

The longer you keep letting trash like this back in, the longer you're putting off and the further you are away from the relationship with the person you're meant to be with.

Juiceinacup · 07/04/2025 14:53

Poor Thai ladies, they are probably forced into servicing creeps like this who like to flash their money about to big themselves up. You however are not trapped, it’s finished, good, and don’t let him come crawling back and use you to fill the gap until he can break up with you again just in time to head back to Thailand again.

Curlycurio · 07/04/2025 14:54

outerspacepotato · 07/04/2025 13:38

I can't help but notice he's breaking up with you before another trip to Thailand.

Convenient timing, isn't it

StandFirm · 07/04/2025 14:57

meridiana · 07/04/2025 13:19

This may be long, but I’ll try and keep it short.

I have spent this morning extremely distressed, I’m questioning everything including my worth. I feel like a waste of space, from what he had said. I’m too upset to see the situation for what it is.

BF and I had been a bit on and off, but decided to make this official and things had been pretty much smooth sailing from then. We had one argument, that was resolved after we both agreed it was a misunderstanding.

We’ve had very minor disagreements, but no arguments aside from that until yesterday.

He makes significantly more than me, this around 5x more. We don’t live together. He tends to pay for meals out etc. and likes to treat me with things like flowers, but I have never asked for him to pay for anything. I do also pay for myself for other things too.

When we were shopping he had separated our things and said ‘I’ll put your things separately’ referring to the ingredients for our dinner that I was going to cook. He usually eats the majority of our meals (understandably), so I was slightly irritated by this and told him that, but it wasn’t a big deal.

The next day, he made a lemon drizzle cake with my son (he paid for the ingredients) and said he was going to take it home, since he had paid for it and had baked it. I had pointed out this feels like a bit of a double standard, a bit irritating but again not a big deal. He says that he pays for a lot of things for me, I agreed. He then said he spends about £200 per month on me, for which I categorically disagreed. He said he wasn’t going to buy me anything again.

A few minutes later I asked how long until the cake was done, he told me and I said ok when it’s finished you can leave. I was upset and didn’t want him there.

I heard a bang as he left, and I thought he had thrown my son’s car seat into the house, I text him to say it was childish but he says he didn’t throw it and I believe him.

He sent me a text saying that until I apologise, not to contact him. I said I won’t be contacting him then as I don’t feel the needs to apologise, he said ok. I took this as things ending. I then said something along the lines of ‘enjoy fucking the ladies in Thailand’ (I’m not proud of this) as he’s going there this week. I have been feeling stressed about him going as he went last year, and we weren’t together but still somewhat involved and he slept with many people and lied to me about having feeling for another woman. He was well within his rights to do so, as he was single, but it was a point of vulnerability for me. I feel bad that I even said it, and have apologised more than once.

He said he wasn’t ending things, and then ignored me for six hours while he was with friends, I was really upset by this.

He reached out today via text and said he wanted an apology for kicking him out, I said I wasn’t sorry so I wasn’t going to apologise. I said I didn’t feel I’d kicked him out, just asked him to leave as I felt upset and like the day was ruined.

We have previously agreed that we should tackle things head on, so I wasn’t wrong to ask him to leave but I think because I was so upset from the events of the past 12ish hours I couldn’t see it for what it was. I didn’t feel sorry because I was upset and angry.

He then ended things with me, as he feels I am a poor communicator, I am deliberately difficult and speak to him disrespectfully. He feels I have grossly disrespected him.

Things between us had been really lovely until this, so I was taken aback that he’d ended it.

During these exchanges I haven’t been nasty, raised my voice, sworn etc.

He has now said I am a vile person, I am toxic, I am like a dark cloud of sadness, I’m incapable of being happy, and I am not capable of a healthy relationship because of my ‘parents’ fucked up relationship’ growing up. He has told me to fuck off multiple times, that I’m manipulative.

I’ve told him how hurtful I have found his words, and that I really don’t feel them to be true. I am happy, and lots of people comment on my positivity.

He said “You think your actions have nothing to do with how I’ve been?” when referring to how he has spoken to me.

I really just need a fresh pair of eyes please. I acknowledge I have contributed to this, I should have behaved in a better way. It was a blip, but I didn’t see it as a massive deal.

I am genuinely sorry for how I’ve behaved, and I am trying and want to be a good partner. I feel really guilty that I’ve upset him and pushed him to this point.

He is a horrible person who would only make your life a misery. No one is ever 'within their rights' to treat you like dirt. You and your son are worth so much more. Please work on your self-esteem. Please. You really need to see how bad this 'man' is.

AnticleaAndLaertes · 07/04/2025 15:00

meridiana · 07/04/2025 13:29

He has ended things with me now. I tried to call and text but he kept telling me to fuck off etc. so I blocked him, but he has now messaged me using another channel as he feels I wanted to get in the last word. So wants to get his word in.

what a fucking twat

"New phone - who this?"
and block

MrsTerryPratchett · 07/04/2025 15:03

He makes 5x what you do and wants you to pay for ingredients you're cooking for him?

That would be it, the miserly wanker.

Add to that fucking his way around Thailand, yuk.

thornbury · 07/04/2025 15:03

You are better off without him in your life, and so is your child. There's no need for him to be nasty, he's just doing that so that he feels better about himself.

thestudio · 07/04/2025 15:03

This man is a bad man and he shouldn't be around your son.

It sounds like, because of the relationship your parents modelled for you, you have a very low bar for what you and your son are worth as humans, and I think you really need some therapy to help you with that or it will happen again.

AdaStewart · 07/04/2025 15:04

Bill him for the cost of the fuel to bake the cake. Don’t apologize to him for anything, he’s a cunt.

MinnieCoops · 07/04/2025 15:05

He’s after a pass for Thailand. He’ll be back in touch once he’s fucked around over there

5en5uou5 · 07/04/2025 15:05

Oh OP I’m in a very similar position myself. I’m making my plans to leave, hopefully before the end of the year. He is not a good man and you’re better off without him.

Upstartled · 07/04/2025 15:10

Why are you letting your child spend time with a man who has so little regard for you he begrudges covering the cost of cake ingredients?

Anyway. You have a right not to listen to another word he says again. Call it a day.

TicTac80 · 07/04/2025 15:12

He sounds vile, and it looks like you're well rid. Tell him not to contact you again, and then block him on everything. You didn't "push him" to that point: he upset you, you asserted a boundary and said that he could leave (your home) once cake was done. He has a choice on how he reacts to things. It seems that the "good communication" only suits him when you're not asserting a boundary. The ranting, swearing and insults from were uncalled for, as were references to your parents. Sod him.

MrsTerryPratchett · 07/04/2025 15:14

MinnieCoops · 07/04/2025 15:05

He’s after a pass for Thailand. He’ll be back in touch once he’s fucked around over there

This.

SerafinasGoose · 07/04/2025 15:15

ARichtGoodDram · 07/04/2025 13:37

If you heard a bang that corresponds with him bringing your son's car seat in please consider buying a new one.

Your instinct was that he threw it and if he did it could have internal damage.

I'm here to say precisely the same.

It may be compromised. It isn't worth the risk.

Twinkletoes10 · 07/04/2025 15:17

Smithhy · 07/04/2025 13:29

He was manufacturing the reason for the relationship to end so he can buy sleep with women in Thailand.

My first thought.

DaisyBlazy · 07/04/2025 15:19

Hi.
I invited a school friend from another class to my DD birthday party using voicenote. The mum was very annoyed and immediately started to message how her daughter is crying and now so upset (invite sent at 6:30amish). Basically this mum thinks my daughter stole the whole date and idea and venue from this mum’s DD and then told me to book it first. It’s really crazy .
My DD and this other DD are both 6 My DD had no idea when I booked the party or the date or time .
This parent would not drop it saying her daughter definitely discussed this with mine .
I was then accused of inundating her with messages (I saved the WhatsApp messages ) I did not do this other than say : sorry to hear this and if the venue could accommodate more than 20 kids , we could share but last year we did just this and honestly , between 3 of us mums , we had no say in the planning . It was fine though, just made it easier to organise . I just didn’t want it again as it felt it wasn’t personal . And the use before this , this same mum told me off for taking children to a cinema then walking them (with parents ) to the cute cafe for food afterwards . She called me irresponsible. I don’t want problems for my daughter so I’ve let it go that year but now , now I feel she’s being unreasonable.

sorry this is long but it didn’t stop there . She then accosted me at the school hate gate , telling the teachers on duty how she’s been up since 4am with the baby and that I’ve ruined her morning by messaging her . She also demanded I stay and wait as the school will be sitting this out . I said no . She then accused me of not trying to sort it out .
mother mums are now distancing themselves from me because this mum has a sick baby .
This weekend this mum has now messaged my ex husband asking if our DD can go to her DDs party ! I would love this but she would not alllw her DD to attend the year before last at my DD’s and is clearly not allowing her DD to come this year. After what transpired at the school gates, I just want a minute and leave the party’s for this year , what should I do ?

ZiggyPlaysGuitarrr · 07/04/2025 15:20

He's an absolute wanker. Don't bother trying to analyse his behaviour, he's just an arsehole. Move on and don't look back.

ISthiswronggg · 07/04/2025 15:23

I could never, ever, ever, ever be with a man who made a cake with my son, then wanted to take the cake home afterwards (whether it's half or not, totally insignificant) for financial reasons?! A fucking cake! No no no. That would cringe me out so hard, taint my view on him forever.