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Male equivalent paid £25K more than me

10 replies

Glitterybee · 05/04/2025 23:27

I’ve discovered that a male colleague who does the EXACT same job as me is being paid £25K a year more than me.

We’re private sector and there is no fairness when it comes to T&Cs. It’s a bit of pot luck and whoever is best at negotiating wins.

Hes no more experienced or qualified than me at all and the thing that makes it worse is that he’s the least respected in our team & by far the laziest! I reckon there’s others (males again) who are on more than him as they’re so well thought of and respected. I get the feeling it’s us females who are all paid the least within the team.

AIBU? Should I just suck it up and move on?

If it was you would you challenge your employer on it?

OP posts:
Maitri108 · 05/04/2025 23:28

Ask for a bloody pay rise. What's holding you back?

TheWolfHouse · 06/04/2025 01:12

It’s illegal if the job is the same. Call ACAS and get some proper advice. Are you a member of a Union?

WineIsMyMainVice · 06/04/2025 01:16

Do you have proof/evidence?
Either way talk to your manager about it.
If you don’t get answers or action then raise a formal grievance.
Good luck op

EBearhug · 06/04/2025 01:36

I really hate, "he negotiated better." There's evidence that women who negotiate like men will be judged more harshly for being perceived as too hard. But also, equal pay has been the law for over 50 years. Hiring managers will know what their figures are. If they are not paying the same, they are very often deliberately making that choice to break the law around equal pay.

There are processes around asking for an equal pay review, which have some fairly short deadlines once it's started, so make sure you've checked that out before kicking anything off. Do go for it, though. Good luck.

bridgetreilly · 06/04/2025 04:48

If there is evidence that women are routinely being paid less, then you should take them to tribunal. If it’s just that this one bloke is getting more, make a case for why you should be on equivalent pay.

KittenCatKitteryCatcat · 06/04/2025 14:17

Please let us know the outcome.
Wishing you good luck

MrsPerfect12 · 06/04/2025 14:23

How did you find out? If you're able to not say it's that guy and say that you know you're paid less than the men doing the same job you might get more.

Watch out for your company contract terms if you found out from someone else, disclosure of salary was a no no at my last place of work you don't want to risk having a colleague sacked.

LemonGelato · 06/04/2025 14:26

Have you both worked there the same-ish length of time? Do you both have the same level of knowledge & experience and deliver broadly the same outcomes? Are you sure they wouldn't argue he has more/ different/higher level responsibilities than you? Do you have performance related pay? What is their published gender pay gap?

If you took an ET claim, the employer would have to objectively justify the difference in pay and show these reasons are not related to sex.

I'd probably ask informally first, requesting equal pay. If they won't do that and you are dissatisfied with the reasons, raise a formal grievance. Thought bear in mind formal complaints have a tendency to end up with the employee leaving, either made to feel so uncomfortable you resign or they try and an manoeuvre dismissal for another reason. In both cases a settlement agreement might be reached or employee takes an ET claim. None of that is easy. But it's also how organisations get away with inequality.

rwalker · 06/04/2025 14:28

We’re private sector and there is no fairness when it comes to T&Cs. It’s a bit of pot luck and whoever is best at negotiating wins.
you may of possibly answered your own question

What were your negotiations like
a lot of the time they ask for current salary and base negotiations from there

CarrotParrot · 06/04/2025 14:29

MrsPerfect12 · 06/04/2025 14:23

How did you find out? If you're able to not say it's that guy and say that you know you're paid less than the men doing the same job you might get more.

Watch out for your company contract terms if you found out from someone else, disclosure of salary was a no no at my last place of work you don't want to risk having a colleague sacked.

S77 Equality Act bans secrecy clauses relating to pay insofar as they apply to disclosures for the purposes of finding out about discriminatory disparities in pay, and employees disciplined or dismissed have victimisation claims.

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