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Do you think the UK stock market will crash, due to Trump's tariffs?

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mothersdayhmm · 04/04/2025 07:43

I have shares in Nat West. I lost a lot of money on them, but they are currently the highest they've been for 10 years.

Just wondering if I should cut my losses now and sell them? My plan was always to offload them at some point, as I don't like having too many eggs in one basket. The only reason I only invested in this one stock, was that it was an employee share save scheme. I no longer work there.

At their highest my holding was worth £50k. At lowest about £3k. Now worth about £13k. I know they will never get back to their highest value, and I would cut and run long before that anyway.

I'm not savvy about the stock market, so any thoughts would be welcome!

YABU - Don't sell
YANBU - Get rid of them now

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EmpressoftheMundane · 05/04/2025 23:34

Trump has torpedoed NAFTA, NATO and globalisation. The interconnected world we’ve known is unraveling. This feels like a once in a hundred year event to me. Even if the Democrats are back in 4 years, I am not sure that we can go back to the way that things were.

Jim O’Neil is bearish on US stocks for the next decade. I have no idea as a simple retail investor what I can do. I feel like maybe commodities? But I don’t really know, and I am not sure how to do that wisely.

caringcarer · 06/04/2025 00:02

Boohoo76 · 04/04/2025 08:28

My SIPP was worth £168k a month ago. It is now worth £151k. However, I won’t be selling anything. It will go back up.

Similar, mine has lost £4k in just the last 3 days. Stocks and shares go up and down all the time. Over time it will recover.

HRHPRINCESSOFFLUFF · 06/04/2025 00:12

Sit tight, my portfolio dropped £90k in just a few days, I’m gutted as less than a year from retirement. Good article in the Telegraph today, just hold and sit tight. No knee jerk reactions.

Margie2025 · 06/04/2025 00:22

138% over 15 years is not that good, it only works out at 6% compound growth each year. Picking the right shares and reinvesting the dividends you should be aiming for 10% each year. Over 15 years that's 317% growth.

EmpressoftheMundane · 06/04/2025 10:20

I think it is very difficult to average 10% a year for 15 years straight. I can’t think of a single managed fund that has done that.

RedToothBrush · 06/04/2025 10:22

Disaster capitalism is great for obligarchs. They can buy up everything.

Musicaltheatremum · 06/04/2025 10:34

@MillicentFaucet I invest through Quilter via a financial advisor. 14 different funds spread quite widely. Just logged on to check and wish I hadn't! But it will come back

Burngreave · 06/04/2025 10:37

No idea about the stock market but we’re in for tough times. As the Chief Secretary to the Treasury said this morning, the era of globalisation and “fast fashion, cheap TVs”
is over.

ThenAssess · 06/04/2025 17:48

Burngreave · 06/04/2025 10:37

No idea about the stock market but we’re in for tough times. As the Chief Secretary to the Treasury said this morning, the era of globalisation and “fast fashion, cheap TVs”
is over.

‘End of fast fashion’ - a glimmer of excellent news for the environment, workers and UK High Streets.

Jinglejanglejangle · 07/04/2025 16:31

Hold onto the shares unless you absolutely need the money now.

The amount that has been wiped off our various portfolios (mine, husband and 2 children) is eye watering (think six figures now) but as we don't need the cash we are just holding on. I am confident in the decisions I made when I invested and once all this nonsense is over they should recover well.

sharkanado · 07/04/2025 16:32

Normally i wouldn't be so worried but this is the unknown. i'm
not sure what to do although I do have time to sit it out.

CurlyhairedAssassin · 07/04/2025 16:42

YYeah, it's all nothing like I've ever seen before. COVID felt like a walk in the park compared to this. New financial year has arrived. I have some cash that I'd put aside to invest over the coming year. Now I have absolutely no idea what to do with it. Not the foggiest. Some people are saying buy now when it's low. Others are saying it's going to get wayyyyyy lower. And this is the problem. When Joe Public wants to invest they're not going to bother because they won't know what to do for the best.

MushMonster · 07/04/2025 16:59

BalladOfBarryAndFreda · 04/04/2025 08:59

Topsey, there's a theory that the Orange one is deliberately crashing World markets so that he and his billionaire & millionaire chums can do just that. Buy at rock bottom, rake more in, sit on their investments and cash in on the misery and losses of millions of people.

He seems to have forgotten that he was sworn in and took the oath of office to abide by the US constitution. Preserve, protect and defend. That means the interests of all Americans, not just his super-wealthy cronies.

I have heard of this, as an strategy. Crash the dollar to reduce the value of wages in US, so manufacturing within US is appealing. Meanwhile, move assets to other arenas, maybe crypto currency. Or whatever place the money os flowing, to actually keep economic value and power. Then, he expects that US will become a wealthy american dream land again.
But, it is really looking like only the savvy clever financiers will profit from this......
I am not seeing this working, at all!

I think we should keep our cool, keep going, do not budge even a mm, and watch what happens with Trump over the coming months.
Nobody is winning this one. He just thinks we will fold first.

MushMonster · 07/04/2025 17:00

Lol, why has my post been hidden if I just post it? It did not even have time to make it to the net!

MushMonster · 07/04/2025 17:00

It eventually appeared! Yeah!

MushMonster · 07/04/2025 17:08

ThenAssess · 06/04/2025 17:48

‘End of fast fashion’ - a glimmer of excellent news for the environment, workers and UK High Streets.

The question is that I think the end of the era of mass globalisation is a good thing. Better for the environment. Also, for our independance. We cannot really keep trusting that the clothes on our backs, our shoes, our moisturiser and soap, our cars, paper, printers, phones, computers.... will be safely delivered to us, by tomorrow morning, all the way across the globe, in the current (and forseeable) circumstances. It only takes for a war to ignite in the middle of the delivery route. Plus all the transport carbon footprint and the fact that the stuff we get is cheaper because the country making it does not take the same environmental measures to dispose of waste, among others.
I was hoping for some encouragement and incentives to move factories to Europe. But not for a massive crash of everything.

GasPanic · 07/04/2025 17:09

CurlyhairedAssassin · 07/04/2025 16:42

YYeah, it's all nothing like I've ever seen before. COVID felt like a walk in the park compared to this. New financial year has arrived. I have some cash that I'd put aside to invest over the coming year. Now I have absolutely no idea what to do with it. Not the foggiest. Some people are saying buy now when it's low. Others are saying it's going to get wayyyyyy lower. And this is the problem. When Joe Public wants to invest they're not going to bother because they won't know what to do for the best.

From what I can tell so far the FTSE 100 has gone from around 8700 to 7700 so dropped around 12%. For covid it went from about 7300 to around 5200, so about 30%. So covid was approximately twice as bad in terms of drops for the FTSE 100.

sharkanado · 07/04/2025 17:11

Didn't it recover very quickly after Covid? a metter of months? I think 08 took nearly 2 years.

sharkanado · 07/04/2025 17:11

matter

GasPanic · 07/04/2025 17:15

Covid was about 2 years on the plot I am looking at.

08 I would guesstimate about 5 years but the recovery curve was very flat so large errors from eyeballing it.

Unitarily · 07/04/2025 17:25

VIX is up on par with 2008 and Covid.

It’s a proper crash and potentially this is just the start.

I got out a month ago so waiting for the monthly Macd to switch before reinvesting.

For those stuck in it’s up to you. It’s a gamble either way.

My guess is it’s going to keep falling. US tech was massively overinflated and needed a big correction anyway.

If you have funds to DCA in and lower your cost price then that’s probably the most sensible course of action. If you don’t then it’s down to your gut whether you sell now and try to time the bottom.

CurlyhairedAssassin · 07/04/2025 19:40

GasPanic · 07/04/2025 17:09

From what I can tell so far the FTSE 100 has gone from around 8700 to 7700 so dropped around 12%. For covid it went from about 7300 to around 5200, so about 30%. So covid was approximately twice as bad in terms of drops for the FTSE 100.

This has only just started though.

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