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Should she have offered to pay?

15 replies

Coffeequeen72 · 03/04/2025 19:49

I’m interested to hear opinions on this because it’s something I’ve never had to think about.

A very good friend of mine, I’ll call her Sarah, has come into a LOT of money. This was not something she was expecting. Prior to her windfall, she had been comfortable (in a normal way). She always worked hard, and I suspect she will continue to do so despite her newly found wealth. She probably doesn’t need to work anymore.

Anyway, Sarah has a friend who I never really took to. I’ll call her Emma. She’s okay, just a bit opinionated in an “I speak my mind” kind of way. I don’t avoid her. If there are situations in which we meet (eg Sarah’s birthdays or other social events), I’m always polite and friendly to her, mostly for Sarah’s sake. She’s not unbearable.

A few of us went for a meal last week It was a hefty bill because we’d all had plenty to eat and drink. Sarah said she’d pay because the meal was her idea and she’d chosen the venue. I was more than happy with this because I know she meant well, and I just thought it was a kind thing for her to do. It wouldn’t make a dent in her finances but would have knocked the rest of us a bit for the month.

Emma seemed to take offence at this. She said (in a not very pleasant way) “I’m not poor, you know. I can afford to pay for my own meal and I’m sure everyone else feels the same”. Sarah explained again why she’d offered to pay. Emma got a bit grouchy and muttered that she didn’t know who Sarah was anymore because she’d changed so much. Sarah hasn’t changed at all, she still lives relatively modestly (although she's bought a nicer house), she’s never bragged or been flash with her cash. She’s the same kind and lovely person she always was.

I think Sarah was a bit upset about it, but she shrugged it off and said that Emma was just a bit drunk and didn’t mean to upset her. I’m not so sure. I think she’s jealous and was trying to embarrass Sarah.

It’s made me think that Sarah can’t really win. If she offers to pay, people can clearly take offence. If she doesn’t, people might think she’s being tight with her money.

Sarah has helped me out a little bit financially which I am very grateful for, and she knows it. I was her friend for years before she came into money so she knows I would never ask her for anything or expect it.

Should people with money offer to help their friends out and pay for things every now and again, or should they be careful not to be seen as ‘showing off’? I know it’s a very ‘first world problem’ but it got me thinking.

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PsychoHotSauce · 03/04/2025 19:56

I think Sarah is going to have to accept that on some level, some of her friends might be jealous of her windfall, and understand that people like Emma will take offence as a reaction to that jealousy. Emma took it as 'ooh look at her, flashing the cash', you took it as the nice gesture she intended.

Sarah needs to get used to accusations of 'changing' and 'showing off' unfortunately. But it's kind of a non-issue, if Emma wants to be a dick, she'll be a dick.

Edited because I'm a twat and got the names mixed up!

Createausername1970 · 03/04/2025 19:59

If she offered I can't see a problem. If you all sat there, looking expectantly at her that would be wrong.

if she always paid then, yes, it could be misconstrued as her "showing off" but every now and again is a nice thing for her to do, she probably enjoys being able to do something nice for her friends.

DoYouReally · 03/04/2025 20:07

So you & Sarah have always been nice and Emma has always been difficult.

Nothing has changed. It's not about the money. Some people are always prickly.

Moonnstars · 03/04/2025 20:08

I think her paying as a treat at an expensive restaurant she chose is fine. I think it would become more of an issue if she made a point of paying every time (as if no one can afford to do nice things if it wasn't for her) but also I think she would also become a bit resentful to always be the one who paid and feel like people are taking advantage so I would want to make sure this didn't happen often.

PullTheBricksDown · 03/04/2025 20:10

When you get chance I would say to Sarah 'sorry Emma was such a dick the other week. You know we don't expect you to keep putting your hand in your pocket but it was a nice offer'. Make it clear Emma was being an outlier.

Livelaughlurgy · 03/04/2025 20:11

It's a minefield, I've know people to rub a table up the wrong way by insisting on paying, one known wealthier friends feel obliged and it lead to resentment, I think everyone pays for their way and a rare occasion a friend can. But it's definitely a slippery slope.

Rosie8880 · 03/04/2025 20:13

I think where things may start to become different is when things that Sarah wants to do things she can afford and wants to do them with her true/ old pals - who can’t afford them. Sarah may want to share her good fortune and also not miss out on the finer things / just things that are not affordable for / with her pals. Some pals may find this grating/ don’t want to do the more expensive things // some pals won’t mind. It is a balance tho - as the flip side is, Sarah may not want to do the cheaper things her pals do. People can be funny about money and my advice - Sarah should keep to herself as much as she can the money she’s come into. It’s highly probable in time she will socialize with people in her wealth bracket as much as those old pals too.

gamerchick · 03/04/2025 20:14

This once was fine. But it sounds as if you're happy to be dipping into her money. I'd knock that on the head and pay her back what you owe ASAP. People get resentful when an expectation comes about eventually and friendships can change. Your other friend was abrasive and could have let one go but she's drawn a firm boundary that she would rather have a friendship without money involved.

REDB99 · 03/04/2025 20:14

Some very good friends of our family won the lottery. They have been very generous without being showy or changing, if they invite people for meals or to events then they pay and they make it clear from the outset it is their treat. Sarah could have said beforehand that she was treating everyone but I agree that she can’t win either way as you say.

Nextdoortomeis · 03/04/2025 20:16

Our friends won £1.7 million on the lottery.
Everyone thought they would pay every time.
What they did was give a few friends £50 as a treat. Close friends were understanding it was the outsiders that were trying to be greedy.

Gundogday · 03/04/2025 20:29

Sarah’s gesture was generous and lovely.

Emma is one of those people who gets offended at anything.

TortolaParadise · 03/04/2025 20:31

I would keep my lips sealed if I came into money!👄

arcticpandas · 03/04/2025 20:37

Be careful. She has already helped you financially but you shouldn't expect it.

applegrumbling · 03/04/2025 20:39

TortolaParadise · 03/04/2025 20:31

I would keep my lips sealed if I came into money!👄

Yes, precisely! Sarah’s mistake was to tell people in the first place!

PinkElephantsOnParade2025 · 03/04/2025 21:17

Was it a lottery win?

Sarah sounds lovely.

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