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To be irritated by the amount of songs in TV dramas?

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ThisFluentBiscuit · 03/04/2025 05:43

Has anyone else noticed this? More and more TV dramas have long sequences, often slo-mo, where the action stops and there is only music.

To be clear, I'm not talking about background music. I'm talking about when the action and the story and the dialogue stops, and there's a song, accompanied by characters maybe looking soulful and doing something inconsequential, like cooking dinner. In slo-mo.

When it happens over and over again, not only is it boring, but if you don't like the song, it's even worse. It also hugely interrupts the flow of drama. I'm watching for the story, I'm not watching a musical or a concert,

I first noticed it when watching The Morning Show, which has been the worst offender so far. There are four series, and I looked up and counted how many songs, because they seemed endless. I forget exactly how many, but I think it was 110. A hundred and ten songs, where the dialogue stops, in a drama! I just kept fast-forwarding.

I've just tried to watch Meghan Markle's Netflix offering - the cooking show - and it started with a song while two people walked, instead of dialogue. I had to switch it off.

It's a way of having to do less work. Just film characters doing nothing much and throw a song over the top, and you have a few minutes of not having to write any dialogue or the characters having to really work. Throw in multiple songs, and your workload per episode is suddenly much lighter! I think one episode of The Morning Show had nine breaks in the action where songs were inserted.

And I've yet to hear a song in these circs that I actually like.

When did dramas get so musical? I think it's a new American thing. Has anyone else noticed it? I'm finding it highly irritating.

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Lincslady53 · 03/04/2025 17:25

ThisFluentBiscuit · 03/04/2025 14:07

Definitely going to avoid The City is Ours!

Don't miss it, it is very good.

ThisFluentBiscuit · 04/04/2025 18:33

ItisIbeserk · 03/04/2025 14:34

Some of those nine will have been very short moments from the songs. I’ve binged all three series of the Morning Show in the last couple of weeks and only thought that they used music really effectively. Not that it was taking the place of a storyline .

No, no they weren't! It was nine full songs where the action and dialogue stopped and it was all slo-mo crap! That's why I'm complaining!

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ThisFluentBiscuit · 04/04/2025 18:33

Lincslady53 · 03/04/2025 17:25

Don't miss it, it is very good.

Hmmm, maybe I'll try it....with trepidation!

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ItisIbeserk · 04/04/2025 18:39

ThisFluentBiscuit · 04/04/2025 18:33

No, no they weren't! It was nine full songs where the action and dialogue stopped and it was all slo-mo crap! That's why I'm complaining!

Really? Nine full songs? As I said, I’ve just watched this series and have no memory of any episode with almost 30 minutes of music and no other plot development. Which one is it?

ThisFluentBiscuit · 04/04/2025 18:42

ItisIbeserk · 04/04/2025 18:39

Really? Nine full songs? As I said, I’ve just watched this series and have no memory of any episode with almost 30 minutes of music and no other plot development. Which one is it?

Season 2, Episode 1, "My Least Favourite Year."

Nine. Songs.

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ThisFluentBiscuit · 04/04/2025 18:44

I mean, it's meant to be a drama, not a musical!

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ItisIbeserk · 04/04/2025 20:16

Our recollections vary then. I shall rewatch. But then as I said I enjoyed a lot of the music and the atmosphere it creates in the series.

Scandinoirfan · 04/04/2025 20:36

I've been watching Mindhunter on Netflix, about the formation of FBIs Behavioural Science Unit (profiling serial killers) . Some episodes start with an apparently ordinary man making preparations for killing and Roxy Musics 'In Every Home a Heartache' was used during one scene, no dialogue Perfect use of a song.

ThisFluentBiscuit · 07/04/2025 22:38

ItisIbeserk · 04/04/2025 20:16

Our recollections vary then. I shall rewatch. But then as I said I enjoyed a lot of the music and the atmosphere it creates in the series.

You're right when you say the action surely can't have stopped for nine whole songs. I don't remember that episode without looking up the synopsis, but just across the whole series, I got to the stage where I thought "Not again!" when a song started and there was no dialogue, just slo-mo sequences of nothing much. It was often enough that I started to get bored. I found the story was interrupted and I knew I'd have to listen to a song that I probably wouldn't like before the action continued. In contrast, Rivals - also Apple - had the same amount of songs as The Morning Show, but I found them all thoroughly enjoyable Eighties catchy songs. TMS songs seemed quite dirge-like and didn't have enjoyable melodies. Maybe that just what much contemporary music is like. I listened to new music for three hours on Spotify recently and didn't find much that I liked, only "Pour Me a Drink" by Post Malone.

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deeahgwitch · 21/04/2025 10:00

What drives me bonkers is when there are no subtitles ( I’m looking at you Virgin Media 1 in Ireland ) and hard of hearing me turns the volume up because so many actors mumble, then suddenly I’m deafened by the atmospheric music.

ThisFluentBiscuit · 21/04/2025 16:12

deeahgwitch · 21/04/2025 10:00

What drives me bonkers is when there are no subtitles ( I’m looking at you Virgin Media 1 in Ireland ) and hard of hearing me turns the volume up because so many actors mumble, then suddenly I’m deafened by the atmospheric music.

Oh, I couldn't cope without subtitles. And it's not because I'm hard of hearing - everyone uses subtitles these days, because they mix the sound with no regard to the dialogue or the audience. A US publication did an article about it:

www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2023/06/watching-movies-tv-with-subtitles/674301/

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Serpentstooth · 23/04/2025 10:15

I agree. Sound engineers seem to have been written off as unnecessary these days. Sound quality, especially bad on podcasts, is abysmal. Listen to any pre-digital bbc recording and can hear every word.

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