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To think I am completely fucked if PIP changes happen?

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PIPsqueakybum · 31/03/2025 23:40

I get standard rate PIP due to having CFS. I’ve had CFS for 10 years and at the moment I’m going through one of my ‘better’ phases, during the bad phases, which can last weeks or months, I am virtually bed bound, and although I manage my condition as much as possible through pacing, stress is a big factor in making it worse so one majorly stressful event and I’ll be back to square one. I am self employed and manage at the moment maybe 10 hours of work a week, which is better than no hours which is where I was for many years. This is in part due to finally winning my battle for PIP and being able to afford therapies which have helped me have at least some kind of a life.

To give you an idea of an average day (bearing in mind this is as good as my health gets), here’s what I did today:

7.30am woke up as usual feeling completely unrested, aching and like I’d been hit by a truck.

8.30am drove teenage DD to school. Already felt completely exhausted and had to stop at a garage on the way home for a rest and to buy a can of coke to try and wake myself up enough to drive home.

9.30am got home and got back into bed to rest, as I had a meeting at 1.30pm and I felt too tired to manage a conversation. Fell asleep for a couple of hours.

12.30pm got up, had a pot noodle for breakfast/lunch, as I didn’t have the energy to make anything else.

1.30pm met up with potential client, which went well and I have some work as a result of it, but was left completely wiped out by having to be ‘on’ for an hour.

2.30pm got back home, tried to do some jobs around the house but was too tired and went back to bed to rest and then slept for another hour.

6pm got up and put a pizza in the oven for tea.

7pm - now, rested in bed, aching all over and watched TV/zoned out for the evening.

This is a typical day, and I repeat this is as good as things get for me. The fact that I was able to get DD to school and go to a meeting is a HUGE improvement on where I was for years, but CFS is a fluctuating condition and I could very easily be back to being completely useless.

If the proposed PIP changes happen, I will lose my PIP, and ergo also lose the LCWRA element of UC. It was a long battle to get PIP and I don’t have any more than 2 points in any descriptor. I will then be on the basic rate of UC, and my self employment will not be seen as gainful so I will be expected to job search for 40 hours per week, and will be sanctioned and lose further money when I can’t do this. I honestly can’t do any more than I’m doing, and even what I am doing now is a struggle. I’m doomed aren’t I?

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Lyannaa · 01/04/2025 17:23

I call BS on the notion that rich people are fed up with paying taxes. They have become richer and richer since 2010. They quadrupled their wealth from 2010-2015 alone!

verysmellyjelly · 01/04/2025 17:23

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Guess you missed OP quite clearly saying that’s not a normal day’s food for her.

chrissycn · 01/04/2025 17:24

Your need to complain to your MP to put pressure on them to stand up to these changes, even if they are Labour. I'm an unpaid carer and have emailed my Labour MP twice so far and her office manger has assured me that my complaints and questions will be directed to the Minister for Pensions. Make sure you also sign all the petitions online.

Lyannaa · 01/04/2025 17:25

Brexit and furlough payments are likely to be the reason for the mess we’re in. Plus years of running the NHS into the ground.

Gloriia · 01/04/2025 17:25

'Multiple people gave inane, inappropriate, unasked for advice about what OP should or shouldn’t eat, making it apparent they have no comprehension of food access issues'

'Inane and inappropriate'. Lovely.

Inconveniently many people stated eating junk food will not help, and if you can boil a kettle for a pot noodle you can turn a microwave on for something a bit healthier.

'Food access' issues? Do you mean food purchasing bad choices?

Tedsnan1 · 01/04/2025 17:26

Emanresuunknown · 01/04/2025 09:44

This. Its pretty obvious she can't function in the morning because she was on the Internet at 2am. I feel fucking horrendous if I go to bed later than 11pm and I'm a healthy functioning adult. I was expecting OP to be going to bed at for eg 9pm after saying she was exhausted all day. But I bet she doesn't because she's napped half the day so really her day and night have got switched. And then eating shit like pot noodles when there are things like simple ready meals you just microwave that would be far more nutritious.
This is the problem with the level of benefits we are paying out, it's not true for all but some are simply not helping themselves, when there are things they could do that would considerably reduce the impact of their illnesses.

The majority of me/cfs sufferers have insomnia. Hope that helps.

ImTheAprilFool · 01/04/2025 17:26

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EasternStandard · 01/04/2025 17:26

Lyannaa · 01/04/2025 17:19

How about all the money that had to be haemorrhaged out during Covid quarantines to furlough people?? I can’t imagine how much that must have cost.

I find it funny that people on this thread have forgotten all about this. You were all happy to be taken care of in your hour of need and now you have the cheek to be telling disabled people about their disability that you know nothing about.

Hypocritical to say the least!

Tbf Mn was mostly for it. A few pointed out the cost and it went down as usual. Badly. The usual attacks etc

I’d say the people who were for extended costs back then are for welfare.

verysmellyjelly · 01/04/2025 17:27

Gloriia · 01/04/2025 17:25

'Multiple people gave inane, inappropriate, unasked for advice about what OP should or shouldn’t eat, making it apparent they have no comprehension of food access issues'

'Inane and inappropriate'. Lovely.

Inconveniently many people stated eating junk food will not help, and if you can boil a kettle for a pot noodle you can turn a microwave on for something a bit healthier.

'Food access' issues? Do you mean food purchasing bad choices?

This may not be an area of etiquette with which you’re personally familiar, but lecturing someone who is having a hard time that they should just change their diet and they’re eating Wrong Stuff is actually terribly bad manners and you shouldn’t do it.

Not to mention the fact that, for the millionth or so time, you have no idea what that person actually can eat or what is suitable for them. One person’s junk food is another’s “won’t trigger the IBD”.

verysmellyjelly · 01/04/2025 17:28

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Thank you for making it clear you’re just here to post ableism and have nothing else to contribute.

Bowies · 01/04/2025 17:28

Agree the gov rhetoric on this is ridiculous and worrying. Have you taken any political actions, such as contacting your MP?

Can your teenager not get themselves off to school? It seems like not a good use of your limited energy.

Can you set up a regular weekly delivery? Things like fresh soups you can heat up would also be much more nutritious than pot noodle.

Smoothie with fruit, yogurt peanut better you blend up and take with you or even a bought smoothie better than a coke.

There as lots of things just as quick that don’t involve chopping vegetables etc.

As well as online shopping, there are also some healthy food delivery companies where you can put a prepared meal in the oven or microwave.

rainbowprincesschapell · 01/04/2025 17:28

what's wrong with pizza ?

Gloriia · 01/04/2025 17:29

'This may not be an area of etiquette with which you’re personally familiar, but lecturing someone who is having a hard time that they should just change their diet and they’re eating Wrong Stuff is actually terribly bad manners and you shouldn’t do it'

It is advice. Not what some folk want to hear clearly but advice nonetheless.

InspiritingNotion · 01/04/2025 17:29

I'd love to hear how disabled people are supposed to have access to good quality healthy meals without the money to purchase them.

I'd also like to point out that I drink a lot of water and I take a heap of vitamins every day. It has not cured my disease.

rainbowprincesschapell · 01/04/2025 17:29

Ps just so everyone knows it the wealthy who pay the majority of taxes !!!

MewithME · 01/04/2025 17:30

Btw, parliamentary committee today discussed remote working for people with disabilities. Going to watch it later

https://www.parliamentlive.tv/Event/Index/efa8bc63-fd9c-4d4b-b12b-46d4da344932

Parliamentlive.tv

Home-based Working Committee

https://www.parliamentlive.tv/Event/Index/efa8bc63-fd9c-4d4b-b12b-46d4da344932

Locutus2000 · 01/04/2025 17:30

Breezybetty · 01/04/2025 15:41

Indeed. Do you have any ideas to address this without making the wealthy scarper, taking 30% of the tax take with them?

I know some very wealthy people. Multi-millionaire sibling. None of them are running off anywhere, their lives are here.

ImTheAprilFool · 01/04/2025 17:30

verysmellyjelly · 01/04/2025 17:28

Thank you for making it clear you’re just here to post ableism and have nothing else to contribute.

There was lots of advice on better diet etc to help energy levels. Better than defeatist attitude of doing nothing to help energy levels but sit on here moaning fir hours on end. That's a full working day.

Lyannaa · 01/04/2025 17:30

EasternStandard · 01/04/2025 17:26

Tbf Mn was mostly for it. A few pointed out the cost and it went down as usual. Badly. The usual attacks etc

I’d say the people who were for extended costs back then are for welfare.

The majority of people got paid for doing nothing during the furlough period. How much did that cost? Anyone who was bailed out this way has no right to now say that the country is in a mess because of PIP.

I don’t disagree with it. What I disagree with is the ableist cnts now getting the knives out for disabled people and telling them they’ll just have to do this that or the other when they know fuck all *about disability.

Allthegoodhorses · 01/04/2025 17:30

verysmellyjelly · 01/04/2025 17:23

Multiple people gave inane, inappropriate, unasked for advice about what OP should or shouldn’t eat, making it apparent they have no comprehension of food access issues. On the contrary, I wasn’t describing my own behaviour in most replies - I did give examples later in the thread in response to specific questions, but not initially. All my initial posts had nothing to do with my own situation at all. What we eat day to day looks nothing like the foods being discussed on the thread.

You are obviously incredibly threatened by my posts and I’m so interested as to why that is. I suspect it’s because you don’t want to see anything that forces you to confront the reality of someone on MN who is severely disabled and whom you can’t dismiss casually as lying and exaggerating. So instead you are trying to get at me in another way. Maybe it’s not that, I’m just speculating.

I’m definitely not threatened by your posts. 😂

verysmellyjelly · 01/04/2025 17:31

Gloriia · 01/04/2025 17:29

'This may not be an area of etiquette with which you’re personally familiar, but lecturing someone who is having a hard time that they should just change their diet and they’re eating Wrong Stuff is actually terribly bad manners and you shouldn’t do it'

It is advice. Not what some folk want to hear clearly but advice nonetheless.

It’s meaningless. You are advising things which have no connection to people’s actual circumstances, like saying PP should eat fruit and veg when she has neutropenia and her HCPs have said the exact opposite, or that my senior specialist dietitian must be incompetent when her advice (yes, including drinking Coke!) kept me from going on risky TPN.

Your advice helps no one.

ImTheAprilFool · 01/04/2025 17:31

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Gloriia · 01/04/2025 17:31

rainbowprincesschapell · 01/04/2025 17:28

what's wrong with pizza ?

It's the point if you can cook a pizza you can cook a bit of chicken or something else healthy and protein is good for you. A salty greasy treat like pizza is fine - as a treat.

verysmellyjelly · 01/04/2025 17:31

Allthegoodhorses · 01/04/2025 17:30

I’m definitely not threatened by your posts. 😂

I’m curious why you felt the need to post such a bizarre response then.

verysmellyjelly · 01/04/2025 17:32

It’s really sad to see this thread filled with hate.

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