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Asked for stepdaughter to have counselling

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Carina82 · 31/03/2025 13:54

I'll try and cut a long story short.
I've been with my husband for 8 years, he has a daughter who is 14, I have 2 children, 13 and 14.
His daughter has always been in his care until about 5 years ago when her mother chose to see her a bit more than 1 day a week.

I'd say in the last 2 years his daughters behaviour has drastically changed to the point I think she's being alienated.

She's said things to me like, 'you hate my mum', 'my mum says you compete with her'.
This is coming from a girl who used to call me mum but now isn't allowed to because it upsets her mum. I know I'm not her mum but the manipulation I've seen the mother puts her daughter through is heavy! To the point the daughter is now feared of upsetting her mum and has gone full 'team mum'.

We cannot discipline her because she goes back to her mum and ridicules our rules. She ends up coming back to ours and when we do try and discipline her the statements she comes back with are definitely from the mother because my husband gets the same statements in text from his ex.

The stepdaughter has bullied and belittled my daughter in her own bedroom (they don't share a bedroom) on more than one occasion when we weren't in the house.
My daughter called me crying saying the stepdaughter had trashed her room because she wouldn't let her borrow her make up brush. This was all in front of the stepdaughters friend who was by her side when this was happening.

I questioned the stepdaughter about this incident and she basically defended herself saying, 'she could have just lent me the brush'. She ran off to her mums crying and complained about us.

One night my husband was out and I heard the stepdaughter taking to my daughter in the hallway about how me and her dad are so mean because we wouldn't let her sleep out on a school night, how we're 'pathetic' and how her mum let's her sleep out on school nights.
I CALMLY pulled her up on this and asked, 'why do you think we don't allow you to sleep out on a school night?'
She replied, 'I don't know, it's stupid though'
I told her that we don't allow you to because we have a responsibility to make sure you get to school on time and also have a good night's sleep before school.
She resulted in projecting the most disgusting attitude towards me, like who the f are you and spoke down to me like I was nothing to her. I could not believe what I was watching and hearing.

The stepdaughter has now gone to her dad (my husband) telling him that I don't like her.

I feel her behaviour is getting worse and worse and the more things I read, the more I'm seeing traits of her being alienated.

I'm also making myself really ill because I'd be lying if I said I wasn't thinking about getting me and my kids out of there!
So rather than leave, I asked my husband if he could get the stepdaughter some sort of counselling, I said I feel very uncomfortable in my home and I'm not entirely happy with how she behaves towards my daughter too, but feel counselling could probably help her.

My husband said he won't be getting her counselling so I shouldn't blame her when I leave.

Was I wrong to ask him that???

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toomuchfaff · 31/03/2025 14:09

So, you can't dictate that he gets her counselling, but you can dictate what behaviours you are willing (and not willing) to accept as an individualand as a parent (for you and your child as their advocate).

Toxic behaviours absolutely will not be tolerated, and if they continue then I'd be moving towards cutting all contact with SD and putting the responsibility wholly on DH to manage. This would involve (depending on your setup, who owns the house etc.) not having any contact with SD, whether that means you and DD going somewhere else or SD doesn't come to the house and DH has to organise visitation elsewhere.

Toxic behaviours as you describe above are going to destroy your relationship (with SD, and DH eventually). Your primary concern is protecting yourself and DD. Secondary is your relationship with DH, and final is relationship with SD.

I would burn a relationship if it meant protecting my child, you are the only advocate for your daughter. Do not let her treatment by this girl be a reason she hates you in future.

toomuchfaff · 31/03/2025 14:19

I'd start by having a frank conversation with DH, DD and SD, stating that you're noticing many toxic behaviours being exhibited and you're drawing a line in the sand, you will not tolerate these behaviours going forward.

Dont get drawn into an argument, dont try and justify yourself, dont get drawn into a "youve done this, she did this, he said that because she said this". Dont be tit for tat, just simply state youre not accepting it any more.

We won't be doing that. I'll resume communication when you want to communicate properly in a non toxic way.

And each time you see toxic, reiterate, this is a toxic behaviour as mentioned before, we don't accept toxic in this house anymore and walk away, don't engage.

Google:

Toxic behavior encompasses harmful, unpleasant, or malicious actions that negatively impact others, often characterized by control, manipulation, and a lack of empathy, leading to emotional distress and damage to relationships.
Here's a more detailed breakdown of toxic behavior:

Key Characteristics of Toxic People and Behaviors:

Control and Manipulation:
Toxic individuals often try to dominate relationships, exert control over others, and manipulate situations to their advantage.

Lack of Empathy and Accountability:
They may struggle to understand or acknowledge the feelings of others, and they often avoid taking responsibility for their actions, shifting blame or making excuses.

Constant Criticism and Belittling:
Toxic people frequently engage in negativity, criticizing, belittling, or undermining others, which can erode self-esteem and confidence.

Gaslighting and Denial of Reality:
They might try to make others question their own sanity or reality, often denying or distorting events to control the narrative.

Emotional Drain and Neglect:
Toxic individuals can drain your emotional energy, leaving you feeling exhausted and depleted, and they may neglect your needs and boundaries.

Passive-Aggressive Behavior:
They may express negativity or resentment indirectly, using passive-aggressive tactics to hurt or control others.

Jealousy and Possessiveness:
Toxic people may display excessive jealousy or possessiveness, creating a sense of insecurity and control within relationships.

Lying and Dishonesty:
They may lie, deceive, or manipulate to achieve their goals, building a foundation of distrust and manipulation.

Ignoring Boundaries:
They may disregard personal boundaries, making demands or acting in ways that are disrespectful or inappropriate.

Playing the Victim:
They may portray themselves as victims, even when they are the ones causing harm, manipulating others into feeling sorry for them.

Impact of Toxic Behavior:
Damaged Relationships:
Toxic behavior can severely damage relationships, leading to conflict, resentment, and even breakups.

Emotional Distress:
Constant exposure to toxic behavior can lead to anxiety, depression, low self-esteem, and other mental health issues.

Workplace Problems:
In a professional setting, toxic employees can create a negative and unproductive work environment, impacting team dynamics and morale.

Difficulty in Trusting Others:
Experiencing toxic behavior can make it difficult to trust others and build healthy relationships in the future.

Self-Doubt and Confusion:
Toxic people can make you question your own judgment and sanity, leaving you feeling confused and unsure of yourself.

Ablondiebutagoody · 31/03/2025 18:34

Don't put your daughters through this

wizzywig · 31/03/2025 18:36

Leave. She sounds awful and you're willingly putting your daughter through this.

Jabtastic · 31/03/2025 18:39

Your DH is the problem here not you or even your SD. Be prepared to end this relationship for your own sanity and to protect your children.

I'm so very sick of reading about weak, pathetic men today on MN!

Endofyear · 31/03/2025 20:07

Well, you've given him the opportunity to be a responsible parent and address his daughter's behavioural issues and instead he's turned it around on you. I feel sorry that she's being manipulated and used by her mother to satisfy her need to hit out at her ex but you and your daughters should not have to live with it. It's not right that he's putting the blame on you if you leave - he is to blame for not stepping up and being firm about unacceptable behaviour and giving clear consequences for that behaviour.

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