To wonder when you realised your manager was full of shit?

[ForGreatMintDreamer]

You know the type - great with words, says just enough to sound convincing but when it comes to actual work, they do nothing. When did you first notice it and how did you handle it?

About 10 minutes after meeting them for the first time and then again at my first 'appraisal' where manager openly admitted they don't have a clue what I actually do ... (bit difficult to have a performance discussion then?!) I just get on with my job and leave them to Swan around doing not a lot, not worth pointing out to similar middle management that they don't actual manage anything at all__

Haha, when someone who sat behind her mentioned to me she was constantly on eBay. I was so naive. It did all come out in the end.

My former CEO had made an entire 40-year career in the industry and was an excellent talker about it, but when it came to the nitty gritty didn’t appear to know very much at all. It baffled me initially, and I found it perturbing. But I don’t think he was “full of shit”, I really liked and admired him and realised after working with him for about six months that his skill was in being a really good people manager: he was supportive, brought out the best in people and was adept at encouraging his staff to find the solutions - then all he had to do was use his gift of the gab to promote it.

Which ultimately, is sort of the most important remit of a manager. I’m guessing that because you don’t appear to think very highly of yourself, they aren’t great at managing, either? How reliant on them are you for completing work? Can you find a workaround by liaising with other colleagues instead?

When listening to my manager speak in full sentences of word salad, saying lots of big important sounding words that mean absolutely nothing. Even worse, when he started re-writing my very to the point updates to turn them into meaningless garbage. I am very good at getting my point across but he insists on turning into something that leaves people thinking “I am none the wiser on the situation”.