Captain Tom’s Family

[TheSassyTraybake]

I realise I’m late to the party on this. Just listened to the interview they did on Piers Morgan. They’re really bad at interviews, not sure why they keep doing them.

Controversially I kind of get what they’re saying though?

He raised money for charity. Good for him (I didn’t get the hype about it at all - a man walking round his garden? But he raised money so fair play). Then signed book deals which were for him personally to earn money from. Again fine in my opinion. Then he died and wanted his family to cash in on his fame.

I may well be missing out on other information here (I haven’t followed it all that closely) but if I was in his shoes you better believe I’d want my family to cash in if I died. Squeeze every penny from my name that you can.

I think the problem the family have is that the public think every penny earned from his name should go to charity and they’re saying no, the charity and the money making stuff are 2 separate things.

Anyone more informed about this than me want to set me straight? Or who just disagrees with me on this?

He didn't want it to go to them though, he was quoted as saying he'd written the books to raise money for charity.

Was it with the daughter?

She says no one will work with her now so she trying to earn money by self publishing so has been promoting her books.

Ah, well this case that does change things. I was taking the family at their word that he wanted them to have the money - that’s what they said in the interview.

Here's a line from the prologue of Captain Tom Moore's book:
“with the offer to write this memoir I have also been given the chance to raise even more money for the charitable foundation now established in my name”.

Now, with that line at the start of the book, where would you think the proceeds were going?

that’s what they said in the interview

Hannah says all sorts of bollocks. She’d say she was a Hollywood Primary School teacher if she thought she could make some money out of it.

If you see my reply to @POTC, I took them at their word that the book deal wasn’t for charity.

They're total bandits

Then he died and wanted his family to cash in on his fame.

Where did you hear him say this?

With the offer to write this memoir I have also been given the chance to raise even more money for the charitable foundation now established in my name

That is what it says in the book's prologue, @TheSassyTraybake .

It is seriously clear to me and anyone else, that a man who had just walked a huge amount for charity, and was working to establish a foundation in his name, would write something like this to 'raise money ... for the foundation..in my name".

He is literally saying it.

What angers me is how semantics is being used by the family, and legalese, to make it clear that somehow he actually wanted otherwise.

There is another daughter who very sensibly seems to have kept out of it all.

IMHO Hannah is misguided and greedy but I don’t know all the ins and out. I expect she has some grave regrets.

The front of the book has a little foreword where he says he is snappy that the sale the book will raise more money for the nhs

its literally there in print. That they are still lying on interview is telling

OP, are you bored of making tray bakes and wanting to revive the topic?

As I said, haven’t followed it, just listened to the interview on YouTube. I know I’m late to this.

Have you seen the interview with Rob Rinder from about two weeks ago? It might be on YouTube somewhere.

This family are grifters. Hannah was loving all the attention and grabbed whatever she could. I agree- they are terrible at interviews and I cannot believe they dont know how the come across.

I feel very sorry for their kids. Imagine having Ingram and her husabnd as role models. The teasing they must get at school must be horriying

They’re awful parasites. I don’t know why they’re so determined to keep reminding people of what they’ve done. I think it’s extremely sad that the memory of Captain Tom has been sullied like this to be honest.

Getting caught out

No one, that I have seen, has ever asked...

If your Dad wanted his family to receive this money was a half share of it given to your sister?

It is fair that some of the book money goes to charity and some to the family.
What Capt. Thom said was not that ALL of the book money would go to the charity...so his kids might still be correct in thinking that he wanted them to benefit.
It's pretty usual for a percentage of a book's sales to go to charity.

You’re a parasite who set your dad up in the first place. It all seems very underhanded and manipulative / I can’t see that you’re going to get support from mumsnet Hannah.

I doubt the tide will turn for this family.

I think a lot of it depends on the desirability of the book/item per se, apart from the charity connection.

Take charity Christmas cards sold in high street chain shops for example (as opposed to those sold by the charities themselves): they usually give between 5 and 25% of the proceeds to the charity, BUT people are primarily buying them because they want Christmas cards and they often choose those ones because of the added value to the charity.

Captain Tom seemed a nice enough man right from when he rose to fame (I never knew him, so can't reliably comment on what he was like in reality; although his book contained some horrors)... BUT he was basically just an old man who was famous for a simple one-dimensional gesture; he wasn't David Attenborough or Dick Van Dyke with a long, illustrious career in the public eye.

I can't imagine that anybody bought the book with a genuine desire to learn more about his whole life story on the strength of his very short time in the sun as a really elderly gentleman; it was mainly just filler as an excuse to donate a bit more money to charity. Same with the single, with him mumbling in between Michael Ball singing - I highly doubt that anybody who bought it still has it on their regular playlist to this day. In fact, I bet many who bought it never even played it once.

Just like when they have charity auctions in aid of a very popular good cause and well-off supporters bid and pay £5,000 for a Mars Bar... if you witnessed that and seized on it as a retail business opportunity, now you know the huge 'true market value' of a Mars Bar, but with the money just going to you as a regular person as income, you may be very surprised to be left with 100% of your stock from the cash and carry after a month!!

I mean you'd hope so but the fact she went on breakfast telly a couple of weeks ago to promote her new book and instead got her arse handed to her by Judge Rinder, whilst still bleating that they're done nothing wrong and the charity commission doesn't know what they're talking about would suggest otherwise.

She truly does seem to have more front than Blackpool.

I think the whole thing was a massive con from start to finish to be honest. An awful lot of people thought the money was going to the NHS and not NHS charities together which is a completely different entity altogether.

Exactly. And why was it your dad's dying wish one of many it seems that you build a spa block in your garden.

Yes, I always thought that too. People saw the sudden immense burden on the NHS during a pandemic and they were terrified that it might all just collapse.

They got the wrong end of the stick and believed that they could give money 'to the NHS', so that's what they did - many of them (imho, understandably) out of self-interest - as though it was like a voluntary extra tax to help bring the NHS through an extremely tough time and emerge intact at the end.