To think this man should be fined for... something

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I won't add the link because understandably people are reluctant to click on them. You can Google it.

A man has climbed Scarfell Pike in flip flops and speedos "for charity". He's being described as "brave" and "crazy hahaha".
What jinks!

The wind chill at the top was -14. It takes about 8 hours to go to the top and back down.

How stupid can you be? He raised £30,000. A rescue costs from £3,000 not to mention risking the lives of the rescuers (and taking them away from other, genuine accidents). Plus ongoing costs eg nhs treatment for a broken ankle etc.

His ignorant and cavalier attitude has infuriated me.

I remember reading about some steep sand dunes that people run down but lots need rescuing to get back to the top. There were signs everywhere saying not to do it and if you need rescuing (for being stupid) you are charged the costs plus an admin fee which is invested back in the site. They get so many, that the admin fee makes up a significant contribution

Why can't we start doing this? I know sometimes it's hard to differentiate between "stupid", "niave" and "poorly prepared" but in this case, it's obvious what he'll fall under.

Do you know anything about how it was organised though? Did he do it alone (irresponsible) or did he have a support team (fine)? Cannot respond with no details.

So did he need rescuing or not? If not, then he's done nothing wrong. People do stupid things all the time. If he did need rescuing, and was told in advance that he would be charged, then maybe.
Who judges what is stupid and deserving of a fine? Do you fine people for smoking, or eating a mars bar. There's a risk with all of them.

Perhaps he was preparing to be the first man to reach the South Pole in short trousers.

I think people climbing mountains should be responsible for their own risk - perhaps be required to take out 'rescue insurance' or pay upfront to be rescued, as you do with car breakdown cover - and I think that whether they're in flip-flops or state of the art mountaineering gear.

It is irresponsible, but he didn’t actually need rescue, did he?
There are times I’ve felt that the idiots should be charged, but all that would do would prevent people calling for rescue, and they would end up dying.
I was once sent a bill for an ambulance that was called (not by me!) and sent away after my car flipped in a crash, it was around 25 years ago in Wales, I had no clue ambulances charged in the U.K., maybe the rescued should get a bill after rescue, or at least a donation request.

Sorry did he need rescuing or not? It’s not entirely clear from your post. What is the fine supposed to be for?
I’d imagine that most people who attempt it have more sturdy footwear.

I'm sure that getting insurance for mountaineering is astronomical. I know that extreme sports enthusiasts do pay high premiums on travel insurance but not sure about those that stay in the UK.

Looking at an article, he didnt take 8 hours, he took under 3 to do the whole thing. And not sure where you got rescue and broken ankle from...he didnt occur either?

It looks like he was training and fit.

Yeah it's daft but no more daft than other extreme sports or risky behaviours (still smoking in spite of the well documented risks, drinking to excess on a Saturday night out and requiring ambulance...would you start charging those people as well?)

Speedo Mick: Praise for 'fantastic human being' who raised £1m
(BBC)

For nine years, Michael Cullen has crossed the length and breadth of the UK wearing little more than a pair of blue swimming trunks to raise £1m.

Speedo Mick, as he is better known, began by swimming across the English Channel and has gone on to climb four mountains and walk 6,000 miles.

The 58-year-old said it was a way to thank the people who helped him with his own mental health challenges.

He has completed his final walk, from John O'Groats to Land's End.

He is hanging up his trunks having made his "dream come true" after he passed the £1m mark on Thursday.

The money he has raised has helped more than 120 organisations across the UK and Ireland through The Speedomick Foundation, the fund he set up to give grants to small charities supporting those with mental health issues, disadvantaged young people, the homeless and others.

It doesn't take 8 hours, he did it in 2:27.

I agree it's not the most sensible thing to do but he's got a backpack and didn't set off in his speedos, so presumably he was carrying extra clothes

I'm sorry but he has absolutely still done something wrong. He went up a mountain deliberately under dressed for the unpredictable and often dangerous conditions.

Rescues aren't just expensive - they put the rescuers lives at risk. Find another way to raise money.

I will somewhat begrudgingly admit that a man who runs 30 marathons in 30 days in 30 countries must be freakishly fit and have an idea of what he is up to and how to prepare physically to not die. The problem still remains though that he will inspire plenty of less prepared idiots to follow suit, and they will absolutely need rescuing.

He's copied off Speedo Mick (from here in Liverpool). He's wanting maximum publicity, to raise as much as possible. He's trained and researched. There's more spent out by the NHS on accidents from weekend DIY and drinkers.

I've been hiking in the Alps, you don't need anything extra than standard travel insurance unless you're going over 2000 metres, helicopter evacuation below that is included in standard policies.

Scafell Pike is about 900m

People walk up mountains in unsuitable clothing all the time. Have you ever been up Eryri (Snowdon) on a Summer's day? Thankfully most of them never need rescuing.

I never said he needed rescuing. Apologies if that wasn't clear. I only mentioned a broken ankle as an example of an ongoing cost after a rescue and one that is a very realistic prospect of climbing a "proper" mountain in flip flops.

If someone wants to be stupid, be at it. It shouldn't be at the expense of someone else. My son hurt himself on Yr Wyddfa (Snowdon). He was in hiking boots with proper clothing. He was about 3/4 down so was able to get to the bottom. Had he have been further up, he might have needed some help. He had an accident.

If this man had got hypothermia, that would not have been an accident.

I'd have been furious if my son (or someone else) was stuck waiting while the rescuers were dealing with stupidity.

He did it by himself.

Cross posted. I went to the mining museum instead of up the mountain. 🤣

There is stupid, inappropriate clothing and then there is STUPID clothing worn because it's stupid. Like marathon runners who carry an aga and then moan when they injure themselves.

Leave him up there

Honestly people will find ANYTHING to complain about these days

I climbed Snowden last year and there were people doing it in crocs, and flip flops. I mean it wouldn’t be for me, but they managed fine.

I won’t sponsor people unless there is an element of risk and pain involved.

But we don't ask rugby players or potholers to pay anything just in case they need ongoing treatment as a result of an accident they suffered in their hobby. Or smokers for taking deliberate risks with their health, or obese people for eating junk and costing the NHS a fortune....Should we?

And if so, does he get a discount for being a fit and active person protecting himself in many other ways?

Can you give me an example of when that has actually happened? 🤣 Again does the same apply when people's health problems are a result of other lifestyle factors?

I know it isn't the point of the post, but does it shite take 8 hours!

It takes me about 3.5 in boots so he must be really quite fit and experienced to do it in a very decent time wearing flip flops.

Lots of people do things that could cost the state lots of money. But thankfully we don't levy charges on that basis, else life would become a lot more expensive for an awful lot of people.

I don’t agree, soz

even if he needed a rescue (he didn’t) that would still have paid for the rescue and given the charity £27,000 - that’s fantastic 🤷‍♀️

Ok. I'm wrong.
I'm still going to think I'm right though. 😝

Ignore people who inanely applaud anything that's for "charity".