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To think this is horrific? TW CSAM in a Novel

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sellotapechicken · 25/03/2025 18:39

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/australasia/sydney-daddy-little-toy-book-tori-woods-b2720934.html Australian author has been arrested after writing a book about a man lusting after the barely legal daughter of his best friend, but the entire premise of the book is that he’s fancied her since she was 3 I agree she needs to be arrested!

Oh And to make it worse the dedication in the beginning was ‘I’ll never look at my kids the same way again’ her kids are under 5 years old

Sydney erotic novel author charged after outrage over ‘child abuse material’ in book

Erotic novel ‘Daddy’s Little Toy’ has been accused of ‘featuring paedophilia’, while the author has called the outcry a ‘big misunderstanding’

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/australasia/sydney-daddy-little-toy-book-tori-woods-b2720934.html

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FeministUnderTheCatriarchy · 25/03/2025 23:24

Im sorry, but this isn't an art or free speech issue.

I wholeheartedly agree that any topic can be written about, but the genre in which it is written and how it is written DOES matter.

CSA in a novel as part of wider context to a character, sure.
CSA in an erotica novel, written in a way to arouse a certain demographic.... How can we not take issue?

I believe the intent matters, and being an erotica author writing those lines it is pretty clear.

I don't think PP have actually read the actual quotes before commenting here.

gladwhiskers · 26/03/2025 01:04

SwanOfThoseThings · 25/03/2025 19:04

Are they going to ban Nabokov's Lolita as well?

I've never heard of the author, so can't comment on the literary merit of the book.

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ItisIbeserk · 26/03/2025 01:34

I once had to suggest to the staff of a Waterstones that Lolita be taken OFF a Valentine’s themed table. (It immediately was, with profuse apologies.)

Valeriekat · 26/03/2025 05:49

FeministUnderTheCatriarchy · 25/03/2025 23:24

Im sorry, but this isn't an art or free speech issue.

I wholeheartedly agree that any topic can be written about, but the genre in which it is written and how it is written DOES matter.

CSA in a novel as part of wider context to a character, sure.
CSA in an erotica novel, written in a way to arouse a certain demographic.... How can we not take issue?

I believe the intent matters, and being an erotica author writing those lines it is pretty clear.

I don't think PP have actually read the actual quotes before commenting here.

Well said!

Licky · 28/03/2025 02:07

Weird. It was just yesterday that something triggered a memory of reading truly abhorrent stuff around 25 years ago.

I couldn't even remember the full name of the author or the book but chatgpt helped me out. This is from Lawrence Sanders' The First Deadly Sin (part 3, chapter 3). This is from the Kindle version, and I found the same in my local library.

Even at the time this was probably illegal, but certainly when this edition came out (2013) it should have been cut out. I have no idea how this was printed and reprinted, and I couldn't even find any outrage online.

TW

To think this is horrific? TW CSAM in a Novel
To think this is horrific? TW CSAM in a Novel
Notsosure1 · 28/03/2025 07:17

Licky · 28/03/2025 02:07

Weird. It was just yesterday that something triggered a memory of reading truly abhorrent stuff around 25 years ago.

I couldn't even remember the full name of the author or the book but chatgpt helped me out. This is from Lawrence Sanders' The First Deadly Sin (part 3, chapter 3). This is from the Kindle version, and I found the same in my local library.

Even at the time this was probably illegal, but certainly when this edition came out (2013) it should have been cut out. I have no idea how this was printed and reprinted, and I couldn't even find any outrage online.

TW

Presumably the ‘lad’ is a child? Sorry to be pedantic, it’s not clear from the extract and ‘lads’, ‘boys’ and ‘girls’ can be used by adults the same age to describe friends, and older ppl to describe younger ppl.

In relation to the novel referred to by the OP - how did this pass publication and was she arrested for inciting and promoting CSA or more for obscenity/ outraging public decency?

Licky · 28/03/2025 08:45

Notsosure1 · 28/03/2025 07:17

Presumably the ‘lad’ is a child? Sorry to be pedantic, it’s not clear from the extract and ‘lads’, ‘boys’ and ‘girls’ can be used by adults the same age to describe friends, and older ppl to describe younger ppl.

In relation to the novel referred to by the OP - how did this pass publication and was she arrested for inciting and promoting CSA or more for obscenity/ outraging public decency?

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The boy in the Lawrence Sanders novel is definitely underage. In fact he's once referred to as 'infant'.

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