Partner just told me about £1k fine

[Ontherocksthisyear]

So my partners just nonchalantly told me he is in online court tomorrow to dispute a speeding fine. He said he told me about this fine, just before Christmas. I assumed it was about £50 so didn't really enter into much conversation about it. He's said it was £1k, which he failed to add when he originally told me. Maybe my fault for not asking at the time. We share a house together of 3 years and have an 8 month old DS. I am now pretty angry that he has only now just told me about the fine being £1k and that he's in court tomorrow. He's known this court date for 2 weeks apparently. AIBU here? He doesn't see why I am angry and said he wouldn't have been of it was the other way around and I'd of just told him this.

Fines and points on your licence are issued by DVLA. OP says he didn’t update his address for three years. So the likelihood is that they would have had to trace him to notify the fine and points, which would attract fees on top of the original speeding ticket, and would have got him a DVLA fine for failing to update. His insurance would have been affected too if he didn’t update because the quote is based on postcode.

As far as I understand an attachment of earnings is applied for once judgment is granted. These days it’s easy to find out where people work & he doesn’t have to agree to it. The documents get sent to company payroll & they are obliged to deal with it. There is a protected amount of earnings.
Last time I did one was over seven years ago so it may have changed a bit.

I think that PP kind of meant … he’s making it about the money and that it not being “her business” but it isn’t even just about the money, it’s about the lying and inconsiderate behavior as her DP and father of her child.

That would wipe my savings out!

DVLA fines are up to £1000, not £1000, people generally get fined less, same for not having TV licence, it's up to.

The fine is a minimum of £100. If you accept it, that's what you pay.

However, if you don't accept it, and you dispute it in any way at all, then the 'offer' of £100 is withdrawn and the next level kicks in.

And this is what the gov website says about it.

You can be fined more and get more penalty points if the court decides you’re guilty of speeding.

The amount you’re fined depends on what the speed limit was and how much over it you were driving. It’s usually a percentage of your weekly income, up to a maximum of £1,000 (£2,500 if you were driving on a motorway).

You could also be disqualified from driving or have your licence suspended.

Plus costs and all that sort of thing...

Obviously it's so risky to dispute it, that most people pony up the £100 and take the points.

Now I see he did not update his address with the DVLA - which is 1k fine. Stupid thing to do, but not the end of the world, esp if he has now updated. He can ask for the case to be re-opened and likely the fine will be reduced.

Two thoughts - it's either a speeding fine based on his income (https://www.rac.co.uk/drive/advice/legal/speeding-fines/) or he's been done for not updating his address with the DVLA (https://www.gov.uk/change-address-driving-licence) as this is £1,000.

https://www.gov.uk/debt-payments-from-your-wages#:~:text=How%20you're%20told,payments%20have%20to%20be%20made this one suggest you can only get repayments taken from your wages if it's unpaid child maintenance payments or a CCJ.

The unpaid fine to the DVLA would have to go a long way past overdue before it's deducted from his wages.

YANBU to be pissed off.

If it is a speeding fine, I have no idea why or how he thinks he can dispute it.

This sort of stuff happens. I have no idea how old he is, but when I was in my 20s and 30s I'd forget all sorts of paperwork etc. I'm sure I did leave my address with DVLA out of date for at least 6 months or a year or so - maybe more than once.

When stuff like this happens I get annoyed at myself, the last thing I want is someone else adding to that. If you're keeping on about it, I think the comment of "did it affect you? no, so mind your own business" sounds like a fairly reasonable reaction.

It's £1,000. It's annoying. Maybe he can get it reduced, maybe he can't. Hopefully it's not a huge financial impact either way and hopefully he'll learn a lesson.

I really hope you have never made an expensive mistake - lost keys, phone etc.

Not a great attitude.

That aside, how much is affecting you in terms of him paying his way. Are you picking up the slack by any chance?

He must have disputed that it was him driving, it was probably one of the average speed cameras they have through roadworks, an idiot that we used to know did this and got a whopping fine, it’s mainly to do with wasting the court’s time.

So 3 years ago he got a speeding ticket, which he didn't pay so it built until they managed to get an AoE order to take the funds directly?
And now he's taking the DVLA to court to for the same amount because he argues the AoE even though he admits not notifying the DVLA of his change of address?

Aren't the courts supposedly still all backed up? When was the payment supposedly taken from his wage?

You're going to be in the room during his online court session tomorrow, I hope?

How does he think it doesn't affect you when he's going to have £1k taken from his salary? 🙄
He and his employer will have received an ‘attachment of earnings order’ from the court, stating they are going to take £1k from his salary, so I'm guessing this is what the hearing is about tomorrow - for him to appeal the rate at which it's taken based on affordability.

Probably not when he's got a "my business is my business" attitude! 😡

....quite. He's probably got two other wives, a dungeon under the bandstand in the park and I wouldn't surprised if he turned out to be a werewolf.

If I were you, I'd get @weeorcadian on the case, who has an unerring instinct for these things.

Are they still paper reminders? I get email reminders.

It’s happens. I’ve known it to happen with child maintenance too through the CMS.

This does sound that there is something else to this. I think OP should sit in the court hearing.

There’s not rat you’ve just not read all the thread

You're sort of missing the point here. Yes, the £1k fine is a shocker, but OP's DP wouldn't even have told her about the size of it if she hadn't casually asked if anything was happening tomorrow. And if your DP had challenged you on it, would you have replied "Did it affect you? No, then my business is my business"? I mean, they're meant to be a partnership and they have a baby DS - what decent, respectful person speaks to their partner that way? Particularly when they're in the wrong?!

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The fine is £1,000 for not changing your address with the DVLA, thats a crime in itself... he will owe more if he has fines on top of that.

Your drivers license is a strict legal document used for identity verification, it has to have correct info (name, dob, address etc...) to be valid otherwise its a fraudulent document.

Is it possible to see the court docket (or whatever it's called) for things like upcoming traffic offence hearings? If so, you'd be able to see if he's telling the truth about that aspect.

Well it's not great, it's likely that his secrecy and anger are because of shame about messing up and being in court. And letting you down.

If the original paperwork went to an old address then his driving licence can't be up to date with the DVLA - that alone is an offence. doesn't there need to be a CCJ to take anything directly from wages too?
There's something not adding up with this speeding fine,