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To think that truly successful people just have a completely different mindset?

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AdeptEagle · 23/03/2025 22:33

It’s not just about luck, connections, or talent - some people just think differently, take more risks and push themselves in ways others don’t. Is success really down to mindset or is that an oversimplification?

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Hoppinggreen · 25/03/2025 08:42

WaterMonkey · 24/03/2025 20:53

I’m sure you’re not - as I said, I know you’re only commenting on your own experience. And it’s not like you’re conjuring an image that’s totally unrecognisable, either - I do know the hustle culture bunch tend to see the grind and the gym and getting up ten minutes before you go to bed as part of the same LinkedIn fantasy. It’s always seemed a bit of a soulless iteration of ‘success’ to me, but it takes all sorts.

These are not people who would post on Linked In, if they did they would have people do it for them and they certainly wouldn't share any personal stories.
I get your point but we are talking about 2 very different groups of people

WaterMonkey · 25/03/2025 09:28

Hoppinggreen · 25/03/2025 08:42

These are not people who would post on Linked In, if they did they would have people do it for them and they certainly wouldn't share any personal stories.
I get your point but we are talking about 2 very different groups of people

They’ve probably got people to do all kinds of other things for them, then. I think that’s worth thinking about and really relevant to the subject of the thread.

Cattenberg · 25/03/2025 11:45

Hoppinggreen · 25/03/2025 08:42

These are not people who would post on Linked In, if they did they would have people do it for them and they certainly wouldn't share any personal stories.
I get your point but we are talking about 2 very different groups of people

Surely that depends if they enjoy posting on Linked In? I knew a CEO who spent a lot of time on it trying to establish himself as a “thought leader”.

Badbadbunny · 25/03/2025 11:54

Yep, they do have a different mindset. Of course, having that different mindset won't guarantee you'll be successful as nothing is guaranteed, depending on your health, background, etc., but mindset is what will drive forward one person whereas someone else with the same circumstances etc won't be successful without the mindset.

I see it with my clients. I've got so many clients with virtually identical backgrounds, skills, qualifications, etc., but they just don't compare in terms of what they achieve, i.e. two qualified self employed electricians. One just oozes enthusiasm, innovation, "go getting attitude" etc and has massively grown his business, employing others, etc. The other, despite similar background, qualifications, etc., is really "woe is me" - everything is wrong, he hates his customers, he's constantly feeling ripped off by suppliers, gets fined for late VAT returns (of course HMRC's fault), and is barely earning more than an average wage, whinging customers don't pay his bills, etc (I'm not surprised as he's probably crap at his job and probably doesn't turn up on time - he doesn't give any vibes that he cares about anything!). Same qualification, different mindset, different outcome!

Wishyouwerehere50 · 25/03/2025 11:55

The only question that immediately comes to mind is ' what's the definition of success?'.

Because having a high achieving career isn't my definition. It really is an achievement to be celebrated in many cases ( not all). Not necessarily success though.

My definition of success would be coming to a point of somewhere near self realisation. This would be where I am aware and consciously feel that all the material, societal and ego based goals we grow up aspiring to, mean absolutely nothing.

Something else, way beyond this that allows for contentment and inner peace regardless of all material and outward achievements is the ultimate success to me.

In a more shallow day to day sense - it's way too complex. I believe opportunity, temperament, environment and maybe a bit of luck all interplay. It's rarely one thing here.

I get pissed at the people who I notice had alot of opportunity failing to realise how much opportunity they had. Failing to recognise that those they judge harshly had multiple cards stacked against them in life.

Not everyone is on an equal playing field.

Trolllol · 25/03/2025 12:48

I think that’s the number one factor in success. I can see success in people before they have even begun.

Hoppinggreen · 25/03/2025 12:51

Cattenberg · 25/03/2025 11:45

Surely that depends if they enjoy posting on Linked In? I knew a CEO who spent a lot of time on it trying to establish himself as a “thought leader”.

Unikely that The CEO of a major UK or International company would bother though. They don't need to establish themselves.
The ones I deal with are on constant improvement, both physical or mental. They run marathons or learn a new language instead of watching TV or reading Fiction in what little spare time they have.
Its sometimes being exhausting just spending a few hours with them.

Biffbaff · 25/03/2025 12:54

Yes, there's a huge crossover between people who are diagnostically a psychopath and CEOs. IMHO you have to have no empathy to step on people on the way up, making your millions/billions through exploitation. So yes, but not in a good way.

MrsSunshine2b · 25/03/2025 12:58

Yes, but I don't think it's necessarily a good thing.

To be "truly successful", you need to be a bit reckless and also quite willing to step on other people to get where you want to go. It doesn't always make for a happy person or a good personal life.

Bumpitybumper · 25/03/2025 13:02

blackcatsarethebestcats · 23/03/2025 22:38

Because OP is implying people who’ve had a hard life and are struggling are to blame for just not having the right mindset. As if it’s that simple.

I actually think the sentiment behind this kind of post is more damaging than the sentiment behind OP's post. It implies that some people are hopeless and can't have a successful life. This is almost always completely untrue in this country. I know people that have had all the cards stacked against them and have made a real success of their lives. Leaning into a victim mentality has never done anyone any good.

OP simply suggested that successful people have a different mindset than other people. She never suggested that this was the only factor behind their success or that everyone had the opportunity to achieve the same level of success. I think there are obvious traits that drive success and other traits that will hold you back from success. It's not that controversial and absolutely isn't a concept that is mutually exclusive with also acknowledging privilege etc.

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