May we still crush the Patriarchy?

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In the post Adolescence/ Gareth Southgate world is feminism as an act of war on the patriarchy still allowed?

Should we perhaps instead be letting our men hug it out whilst we deploy 🙌 emoji to show our support of the nümanosphere?

I’m genuinely confused as to the role of female empowerment in a world where the focus is currently back on men.

AIBU?

Thank you. This is exactly what I am failing to articulate.

eh?
men who feel threatened by feminism are very low down on my list of priorities
we need to focus on the boys and men who understand...or who could understand with help- that smashing the patriarchy is good for them too
actually no it's not us who need tofocus on those boys and men, its men, like GS

(disclaimer- I have not heard the lecture only reports of it)

Dear god what am I reading.

Finding good male role models for men that can teach them that women are people not possessions, that teach them they can be masculine without being a dick head and they can understand their masculinity and their femininity. That teaches them to understand the years of condescension, belittlement, under expectation, violence and abuse that women have faced? That teaches them to cross the street so not to intimidate accidentally, to step in when their “friends” are dicks.

if we can fix this with fixing boys before they become toxic men then women will be infinitely better off.

we bang on and on on Mumsnet about toxic men stopping toxic men what can we do to stop the violence, the sexual assaults etc but when a solution is put to us we of course have to push back because it’s not woman centric it’s not feminist centric when actually curing this issue is a feminist goal. Never mind that we might stop losing our sons and daughters.

damed if we do, damed if we don’t.

who is pushing back?
only the OP and not very coherently
most of us are supportive of what you describe

It feels like you’ve had enough internet for today.

Yes, my primary concern is totally whether I can make feminism appear non-threatening to men who don’t like their privilege being eroded.

Wow, that really isn’t what you articulating at all.

I think the Gareth Southgate speech excellent. I really don’t think there is anything to be snidey about what he said.

I absolutely agree with you here, but your initial post, i think is hard to understand. I had to reread it a few times and it only makes any sense in the context of your later posts

Wtaf are you talking about? 😁

Zombie post