Nobody is allowed to choose not to work. Fed up of hearing this expression.

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I keep hearing people say people who choose not to work. Target them.
Nobody is allowed to choose not to work. I wonder if some people actually know what they are talking about?

Nobody is allowed to just lounge around and not look for work.

Able bodied people on UC who don't have a paid job are harassed all the time.
They will probably be attending interviews at the jobcentre once a week, where they have to provide evidence they are jobsearching 35 hours a week.

They can be sanctioned over any little thing.
They have to attend any courses they are sent on, even if they are useless courses. Non attendance will end in a sanction.

The staff can arrange interviews on their behalf if the employer has a tie up with the jobcentre which some do.
If it's deemed you didn't try hard enough at the interview, the employer can discuss this with the staff,and you'll be hauled up and sanctioned for not trying.

Those who think people choose not to work please be educated.
It's a hostile environment for anyone out of work.
Not every able bodied person can find employment.
Your not just allowed to sit at home and choose not to work though.

You'll have a claimant commitment and you have to provide evidence of jobsearching. 35 hours too.

I think alot of people who comment don't really know. Everyone is under pressure.
The days of just signing on once a fortnight and not having to.prove your doing everything you can have long gone.

Don’t be so short sighted. The child will be in full time school in two years time. She’ll be still claiming many years down the line. I hope she’s reassessed soon and it’s taken away. It’s not fair or right.

I think you need your eyes opened.
A lot of people on benefits are bringing in a damn site more than someone working full time on minimum pay, a lot are bringing in over £3,000 a month and more.
A lot are on lcwra so don’t have to do anything to get their benefits.
A lot who have kids under a certain age are not expected to look for work.
a lot of messages about places hiring or offers of placements are followed by messages saying to ignore it if you’re not interested in the message.
a lot are sat on their backsides thinking I’m not going to work to pay my rent if upwards to £1,000 depending on area when the government are paying it for me and paying me more on top that I couldn’t earn.
Think about it, rent £800 standard allowance £400 lcwra £415 pip minimum £405 that’s before throwing kids allowance into the mix £297 for each child and then the child needs care for adhd another £400 being able to claim carers allowance and DLA for the child.
Making sense yet!
a lot don’t want work and the minority get hit because of it.

No, I don’t have empathy for anyone who cheats the system. For anyone who genuinely needs it then I have no problem

What percentage of claimants committing benefit fraud would be an acceptable/ unacceptable number?

What’s the tipping point for you?

Spot on. And generation after generation see it as a way of life and on and on it goes.

This is what I've been saying. It's not that easy...

Mmm is this rage bate for daily fail readers?!
Probably not meant to be.

I am on benefits and am not bringing in anymore than anyone working. My income is £800 each month. If you are on your own with no kids then you don't get much.
I am on LCRWA because I am classed as high risk to myself and others becose of a combination of autism and mental illness. I would change that if I could.
I don't sit on my backside. I do crafts in the day and have a dog that I care for. I go to several different support groups in the week. I have a boyfriend that does all of my life admin and makes sure I am safe when I go out. My mum takes me shopping and to other places if needed.
I am not on PIP. I used to work. I worked a lot of jobs and got bullied, fired or managed out including the NHS.
I am not on PIP so will lose the LCRWA. Who is going to employ me? If I get overwhelmed I either shutdown or meltdown. I already have a police record for meltdowns. I am scared to go out alone incase it happens again.

When I first went to the job centre to claim UC I was told I would have to apply for EVERYTHING. Including driving jobs when I am not allowed to drive.
Thankfully, my work coach was really understanding. She saw me and said she could not in any good faith make me apply for jobs as it was plain to see I was struggling. Before I had sick notes, she switched off the work requirement thing. One time, I was a no show and she didn't even mention sanctions. She told me to avoid the press. She was actually a really nice and understanding person.

I know a family that choose not to work. The mum supposedly has anxiety and agrophobia, but is regularly posting on FB about going out and about all over the place and going clubbing with her friends. The dad was her ‘full time carer’ despite the fact that she had no care needs, but then decided he had his own disabilities, and has managed to claim disability benefit himself. Both also receive PIP, and despite neither working, they fail every morning to get their child to school on time (a short 15 minute walk away from their house but a taxi calls for the child every day, and is kept waiting at least 20-30 mins). They absolutely choose not to work and in fact the mum brags about it openly. I have a serious illness (cancer) and yet would not qualify for PIP as I would be honest on the forms.

If someone started a #MeToo online campaign where people could cite real life examples of people they know who milk the system, I wonder what the response would be; so many people claim to know “lazy benefit claimants.” How many actually exist?

If they didn't have benefits, they'd be forced to sort out their attitudes or they'd go hungry.

I'm indifferent to shirkers that refuse to work living in poverty.

Good for you. It could be you one day. Because who the government sees as "shirkers" keeps changing

I would like to see a #MeToo campaign of peopel that are being affected by the proposed cuts. There are already lots of them.

I did go hungry and had to have intervention and admit I needed benefits.

No, they'd just starve.

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Or they could get jobs.

What jobs? Are you in a cushy job right now?
It is awful out there for people looking. A few threads about it right now.

A neighbour of mine has recently retired, apart from a retail job in her late teens , she has never worked. Her husband, likewise. The thought of work absolutely terrified her. I have to bite my tongue a bit as I'm still getting up at 4 am to clean offices to supplement my pension at 75.

If they're incapable of working? No. They'll just go hungry.

Are you always like this?

You will have read my post above.

What do you suggest regarding a fit and able, single 34 year old, who hasn't worked for five years? What are the reasons for him being able to do this?

He isn't under pressure to find work, he doesn't even mention work. Lives cheaply, enjoys his hobbies. Has completed one training course.

Being out of work isn't good for him and isn't good for the tax payer, when so many other services and people could benefit from the money.

Is he fraudulent? Could you be found out or reported by others?

My friends daughter has choosen not to work. She dosent have to do what you say people have to do because she is in the process of getting her 2 children diagnosed with adhd. This means that she offically becomes their carer. In reality this shouldnt stop her working because both her children are in Ft education and after school my friend has offered to look after them because she herself dosent work, but she admits that she dosent want to work because its to much like hard work, and if her children dont get the diagnosis of adhd, then she will have a 1 night stand and get herself pregnant so she cant work because she has a young baby.

They're doing it for the votes. All the excited plebs gathering round to watch the hanging. Just look at threads like this one! I imagine lots of right-wing people are pleasantly surprised by Labour bashing the poor, and will be more likely to vote for them in future. Certainly there are lots of them in my office, gossiping about their daughter's, neighbour's, goldfish's ex-husband who makes £4 million a year on benefits, as well as having an illustrious career as a famous acrobat. I've literally never seen them as excited about anything.

If it were actually about the money, there are much more effective ways to balance the books.

I'm afraid you can't educate ignorant people. Judging by the comments I think I'm right.
Clueless.