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Biggest scam you didn’t know was a scam

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Sillysausage2 · 16/03/2025 02:24

Lighthearted 😂
I saw an Instagram post earlier about the biggest thing you don’t realise is a scam and we all accept as normal.
We all have stories about how our parents raised 7 kids etc in a 3 bed if they were lucky, my grandparents had 9 in a 2 bed 😂
the aim for everyone now is buying or building massive houses, 3 en suites at least, we spend the weekends in Ikea, home bargain etc buying shit we don’t need and cleaning the houses with the 4 bathrooms!
I swear I’ve spent more Time cleaning the legs of chairs than is reasonable and I seem to wash the walls of my bathroom far more than people ever mentioned.
I don’t remember my mother ever cleaning the panelling on the walls.
is it all a scam? Are we busy fools?
sometimes I got to centre Parcs like places and think how simple my life would be if we al only had one suitcase each

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Cattenberg · 16/03/2025 15:08

I’m annoyed that the magazines I read as a teenager and young woman persuaded me that my pale skin tone was somehow embarrassing and that I needed fake tan in the summer. These magazines were relentless in this message - for example, they shamed soap stars on the red carpet who didn’t have tanned legs.

These magazines also made me paranoid about body hair and encouraged me up spend my money shopping for clothes and cosmetics I didn’t really need.

AnAlpacaForChristmasPleaseSanta · 16/03/2025 15:11

cait967 · 16/03/2025 08:48

The wedding industry is ridiculous. I love weddings but they used to be simpler. Now they just seem out of control. I went to one recently where the bride told me it was £300 a head, honestly couldn’t see where that money was going

I think social media is the devil here, everyone seems to want an instagramable wedding that stands out on social media so that their hundreds of followers will be impressed (and maybe jealous). A wedding I went to last year even had a sign up reminding us to use the hashtag #BenandLeahswedding (not their real names).

Back in the 90s and 00s a wedding meant the service, reception bit of dancing and everyone taking photos on their Kodak 35mm film cameras, that would then take at least a fortnight to get the photos developed. Once you finished the roll of course. And there were always some hilarious wrong ones, my poor nan was mortified to have cut the head off one of my cousins in every photo she took at his wedding.
No idea how as he's not ever that tall! But it's always made us laugh.
Nowadays a less than perfect shot on our phone is deleted right away.

Toothicktounderstand · 16/03/2025 15:26

Any clothing with the word equestrian in front of it!

mwyalchen · 16/03/2025 15:29

From yesterday bus ticket pricing.

They've done away with return tickets after having them bus only for a while- so price had gone from £4.20 return to needing two £3.50 - so now £7 per adult to next twon.

I've seen no advertising about it and it wasn't clear on website so couldn't work out if a group ticket would be cheaper - it would have been - though no longer get one for local area. Currently children and under 25 can still get returns but as some point those will be phased out.

Last few years group tickets are now entire huge geographical area and the one that used to be to just nearest town are gone. So daily group or daily single same price to travel so costs same to travel 50 miles as it does to next town. However I don't need to travel 50 miles on regular basis but next town or city would be useful.

So tricket prices haven't gone up as such just range of tickets reduced so it now way more expensive. There starting to the same with train tickets - taking away soem options that mena you pay more.

Hwi · 16/03/2025 15:29

ZebedeeDougalFlorence · 16/03/2025 13:58

I don't think that's a scam. I think she made a bad choice. I have a PhD and do not regret it. I wanted to dig deeper into the subject I was interested in. I also had a career before I undertook the PhD and completing it has enhanced my work and prospects.

I thought everyone knew that academic qualifications don't make you valuable to the work force without work experience? I was told this when I did my first degree many moons ago.

About academic qualifications without work experience - both this friend of mine and me were told by the same university lecturers that a PhD in her case and a Master's in mine would do just that - not only improve our career prospects, but would virtually guarantee a job, specifically, for her in the EU and for me, in one of the UN Europe-based organisations. They were very specific and we had no reason not to trust them. In my case it was also a pre-requisite for applying. You could not (at the time at least) get the relevant work experience for those sort of jobs in those organisations if you did not have connections in them. Early 1990s.

thestudio · 16/03/2025 15:33

I agree that 'advanced' capitalism (and capitalism will always drive itself forward until it's 'advanced') is a scam.

One upshot is that it's now the norm for both parents to work full-time when babies and toddlers are still very young.

Research has always shown that babies need a secure attachment with one consistent care-giver - not chaotic, crowded, loud environments where staff turnover is high. We know that the standard of 'industrial' - sorry, but that's what it is, and needs to be to sustain this model - childcare is exceptionally low when compared to many other developed countries. I (genuinely, and not just to enrage or upset people) think we will see the results in the next decade and it won't be good either for individual children or for society as a whole.

It's a massive social experiment and a massive con. Capitalism needs us to buy, on and on and on, and it will always adapt and coopt and shift in order to keep consumption increasing. Thus it's successfully convinced us that a certain standard of living is the minimum we deserve - and that without certain objects and services we're not 'living'. So families work full pelt to afford this lifestyle - and pay out even more in convenience foods and extra services in order to make family life even vaguely possible.

It's true that housing costs make it harder to survive one one income. But my honest belief is that, with serious cutbacks in spending, it would be possible for many families to survive for a few years on one or 1.5 incomes.

What should have happened is that men should have been forced/enabled to take half the load - so both couples go part-time and care is split between them. That's child-centred, but also equality-focused.

I know lots will disagree, but what we have is horrible.Thirty odd years ago it was very much not the norm, and I don't think anyone - women, men, and most of all babies and toddlers - has benefitted.

Doingmybestbut · 16/03/2025 15:43

Academia in the humanities.

You pay 11k for a masters. Then 15k for a PhD. Only a handful of people get jobs and the academic jobs are low paid and short term. Only a few people then move on to tenure. Early career lecturer posts pay less than secondary school teaching jobs. Such a scam.

321user123 · 16/03/2025 15:44

ozyin · 16/03/2025 09:39

Big weddings (not the nice cosy, cheap ones at the local community centre - they're great)
Private schools (I think they're maybe worth a bit more than state, but ~20K more? No, they saw you coming)
University (now that my DD is currently there. Doesn't seem to get an awful lot for the 10K she pays)
Everything being on subscription these days.
Baby stuff - you don't need all that shit.
Lego

I agree with every single point you made here but found myself being a bit of a devil’s advocate..

  • private school: you often pay for the privilege and connections rather than necessarily schooling.
  • I probably would try and pay for private school IF there was one which would do significantly more than schools do nowadays. More outdoor learning, more activities, everything being a lesson - for example eating - how to pair foods, why we eat these foods, macros and micro nutrients, etc etc.
  • Learning more life skills like cooking, mending clothes, changing a lightbulb (tongue in cheek), replacing a lock or door handle. How to use a saw or a drill, etc.
  • learning about finances, how do bills work, direct debits?, how does finance work, how do mortgages work, so on and so forth.
  • Learning more about the world of work, how to do interviews, how to present yourself, how to improve your skills, etc etc etc.
Now this type of schooling is something I’d work myself to the bone for. A lot more life skills and a lot less learning about Hamlet. - (Ok, that’s really important too but between the two maybe the others a touch more so and maybe have additional clubs to learn more).
Doingmybestbut · 16/03/2025 15:44

Skin cleansers that dry out your skin then claim you need oily moisturiser to redress the balance. Repeat.

Itsnotallaboutyoulikeyouthink · 16/03/2025 15:47

thestudio · 16/03/2025 15:33

I agree that 'advanced' capitalism (and capitalism will always drive itself forward until it's 'advanced') is a scam.

One upshot is that it's now the norm for both parents to work full-time when babies and toddlers are still very young.

Research has always shown that babies need a secure attachment with one consistent care-giver - not chaotic, crowded, loud environments where staff turnover is high. We know that the standard of 'industrial' - sorry, but that's what it is, and needs to be to sustain this model - childcare is exceptionally low when compared to many other developed countries. I (genuinely, and not just to enrage or upset people) think we will see the results in the next decade and it won't be good either for individual children or for society as a whole.

It's a massive social experiment and a massive con. Capitalism needs us to buy, on and on and on, and it will always adapt and coopt and shift in order to keep consumption increasing. Thus it's successfully convinced us that a certain standard of living is the minimum we deserve - and that without certain objects and services we're not 'living'. So families work full pelt to afford this lifestyle - and pay out even more in convenience foods and extra services in order to make family life even vaguely possible.

It's true that housing costs make it harder to survive one one income. But my honest belief is that, with serious cutbacks in spending, it would be possible for many families to survive for a few years on one or 1.5 incomes.

What should have happened is that men should have been forced/enabled to take half the load - so both couples go part-time and care is split between them. That's child-centred, but also equality-focused.

I know lots will disagree, but what we have is horrible.Thirty odd years ago it was very much not the norm, and I don't think anyone - women, men, and most of all babies and toddlers - has benefitted.

Couldn’t agree more! For me it’s the expectation also that as soon as your child reaches secondary they can be home alone every afternoon for a few hours until a parent gets back from work. No, they need us more than ever during the teenage years.

godmum56 · 16/03/2025 15:53

minnienono · 16/03/2025 12:01

Not a scam but we have been sold a “dream” and that reality just isn’t what we were sold. Bigger more expensive houses take more to clean, more to maintain, we need 2 incomes to service the mortgage and bills, less time so have to hire help which comes with more stress of course, kids in a zillion clubs keeping up with the Jones’ etc etc etc.

the simple life of yesteryear was hard work (my grandmother never owned even a washing machine, only a mangle) but I think people were less stressed despite money being a constant worry (think having to wait for the weekly wage packet to arrive home just to be able to afford to buy a loaf of bread to feed the dc, my mum, a simple bread and jam tea). My mum had one school shirt but my grandmother washed it daily drying on the line or in front of the coal stove then ironing it still damp with a coal heated iron to fully dry! Hard life but happy

I thought I answered this.... I get the "bigger is better" house dream as not a scam but an illusion, but don't EVER tell me the past was better, the people were happier and tless stressed and he rest of that rose tinted crap. I was there. It wasn't.

TroysMammy · 16/03/2025 15:55

I think putting fuel in cars is a scam. How do we actually know what comes out of the nozzle and into the car? We don't see it but we pay for it.

honeylulu · 16/03/2025 15:56

Catza · 16/03/2025 14:23

None of the things you listed are essential. Swimming lessons... What's wrong with you teaching your kids how to swim? I was taught by my grandfather. No pool lessons needed. I mean, I don't believe for a second it's an essential life skill but whatever.
School uniforms are another scam, as far as I am concerned. Not clear at all why we need them. I didn't have it in my school.
Christmases wouldn't cost any more for a child specifically than it would for an adult. Unless you feel compelled to provide a mountain of gifts instead of one.
As for uni, I encourage my teen to go to work after A levels and take time to think about what she wants to study. After 25, she is no longer tied to our income and can't take on a full maintenance loan. Plus, she would get more out of her education as a mature student. She also doesn't need to drive just yet. We live somewhere with a relatively functional public transport system and she can use my bicycle to get places. Almost nobody in my family has a license and they manage surprisingly well. I didn't have one till I turned 38. I guess it's another "essential life skill" which is, surprisingly, not essential. Or she can always pass her CBT and get a scooter if a bike isn't good enough. Something I did when I was at uni (as a mature student, aha).

Childcare was essential, £2k a month (luckily did not have more than one in nursery at the same time). So also expensive. The other stuff added up too, but it was a drop in the ocean compared to childcare fees. There was no way round it. If I'd given up my job instead that would have "cost" £5k+ a month.

Mightymoog · 16/03/2025 15:58

Itsnotallaboutyoulikeyouthink · 16/03/2025 15:47

Couldn’t agree more! For me it’s the expectation also that as soon as your child reaches secondary they can be home alone every afternoon for a few hours until a parent gets back from work. No, they need us more than ever during the teenage years.

Well I think that's a reasonable expectation TBH.
Teenagers need you to talk to; you can do that when you're all in the house together.
Why would a NT teenager need a parent in the house with them at all times ?

MasterBeth · 16/03/2025 16:01

TroysMammy · 16/03/2025 15:55

I think putting fuel in cars is a scam. How do we actually know what comes out of the nozzle and into the car? We don't see it but we pay for it.

  1. The petrol gauge in your car shows you how much petrol you're putting in.

  2. Trading standards departments routinely check fuel stations in their area.

It amazes me that people think they are the first people to consider these things!

mwyalchen · 16/03/2025 16:04

Doingmybestbut · 16/03/2025 15:43

Academia in the humanities.

You pay 11k for a masters. Then 15k for a PhD. Only a handful of people get jobs and the academic jobs are low paid and short term. Only a few people then move on to tenure. Early career lecturer posts pay less than secondary school teaching jobs. Such a scam.

I worry about the heritage sector DD1 looking at they want lost of qualifications and experience and seem to want to pay peanuts and have short term contracts.

My Dsis had the PP experience field you needed contacts to get on in - which my family didn't have - it's not unquie a series of books got written about it - yet uni kept offering more and more post graduate qualifications racking up her debt.

The degree itself got her work but not in that field - so wasn't useless but Uni and her aims were clearly not as aligned as she'd expected. Something we've warned out kids about - the need to do their own research into sectors.

Novotelchok · 16/03/2025 16:06

JohnPrescottsPyjamas · 16/03/2025 14:44

@SwanFlight Pharmaceutical scam - that’s a very good point.

Certain prescription drugs certainly have their place and have transformed our health and wellbeing incredibly but, and maybe it’s our own fault, everyone wants a quick fix pill rather than taking responsibility for their own health - and many doctors are happy to oblige as it’s of financial benefit to their practice to get us all on as much as possible. Statins and diabetes tablets are a prime example.

My MIL could have controlled her own diabetes by moderation, but she had a very sweet tooth and preferred to take Metformin instead. She was also told by the hospital physio that much of her pain would be released by gentle exercise, keeping herself mobile and losing some weight. Again, she preferred to just rely on prescribed pain killers. If she was reflective of some that needed advice and plain facts rather than doling out tablets, no wonder the NHS is the costly behemoth it’s become.

If you want to see what pharmaceutical scamming on a major and unscrupulous scale looks like, watch Painkiller on Netflix about the over prescription and deliberate pushing by US doctors of OxyContin. Truly frightening.

Without diabetic drugs people with type 1 DM would die (this was typical before insulin was available). Many people with type 2 can't control it without medication - making a moral judgement on them is very unhelpful and unpleasant, as are the complications of DM - visual loss, ulcers, heart disease, stroke & limb amputation (due to failure of blood supply)

Statins have been shown to reduce the risk of heart disease & stroke - check your risk of heart disease here: https://www.qrisk.org/

In the UK doctors get NO financial kickback for prescribing drugs. We get told off by
management if the drug bill is too high! Statins & DM drugs are hardly the problem there as mostly off patent & cheap.

QRISK3

https://www.qrisk.org

godmum56 · 16/03/2025 16:10

TroysMammy · 16/03/2025 15:55

I think putting fuel in cars is a scam. How do we actually know what comes out of the nozzle and into the car? We don't see it but we pay for it.

ummm the car runs for the expected number of miles?

Doggymummar · 16/03/2025 16:12

Violashifts · 16/03/2025 08:31

Ironing is a scam. Waste of life and electricity. Low spin. Shake it dry. Absolutely fine.

Agree I haven't ironed in a decade. If it can't be tumble dried and liim fine it goes on Vinted or to the charity shop

TheBunnyLover · 16/03/2025 16:14

Zippidydoodah · 16/03/2025 07:53

My teenage daughter thinks school is a scam! 😂

To be fair to her, It's as much as scam as a lot of things mentioned on this thread are. Some of the wealthiest/successful in ways other than wealthy people I know didn't do well at school and/or left early. A lot of my degree-having friends struggle. Schooling in itself isn't great for many, many children-me included!

MsBucket · 16/03/2025 16:17

GETTINGLIKEMYMOTHER · 16/03/2025 07:57

I wouldn’t call any of that a scam. To me all those things are trends or fashions, that you can follow or not, as you choose.

As for large families in small houses, for a start decades ago ordinary people had far less ‘stuff’, e.g. far fewer clothes, and children had far fewer toys. ‘Stuff’ in general was a lot more expensive since it’d largely be U.K. made, not imported from Bangladesh or China.

Not to mention that pre central heating, small rooms in small houses were cheaper to heat, when the cost of coal would have been a major expense.

This in spades.

Wintersgirl · 16/03/2025 16:21

Articles and News items behind paywalls...

AllProperTeaIsTheft · 16/03/2025 16:27

Itsnotallaboutyoulikeyouthink · 16/03/2025 15:47

Couldn’t agree more! For me it’s the expectation also that as soon as your child reaches secondary they can be home alone every afternoon for a few hours until a parent gets back from work. No, they need us more than ever during the teenage years.

They need us more than ever? Really?! So you think that a teenager is less independent than a 3 year-lld or a 6 year-old and you would leave a toddler at home for a few hours rather than a 15yo?

Pudmyboy · 16/03/2025 16:28

MikeRafone · 16/03/2025 11:17

most stuff on temp and TikTok shop - stuff you don't need and will last 5 minutes

bit like the betterware catalogue, full of items you don't need

Oh I loved the Betterware catalogue! It assumed no previous knowledge of any of it's products! So the blurb would run: 'kitchen bin: great for putting rubbish in!' 'scissors: great for cutting!' I miss it!

TroysMammy · 16/03/2025 16:31

MasterBeth · 16/03/2025 16:01

  1. The petrol gauge in your car shows you how much petrol you're putting in.

  2. Trading standards departments routinely check fuel stations in their area.

It amazes me that people think they are the first people to consider these things!

Go back to the first word in the OP's post.