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AIBU?

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Soapladies · 15/03/2025 17:50

We’re a group of four friends who met over twenty years ago through a shared activity. We’ve all moved away since then but try and get together every year or so. We go to various cites and get an Airbnb for a couple of nights. This year an event related to our shared interest took place in Friend 1’s city and she very kindly invited us to stay with her. She’s got a really lovely house, walking distance to the city centre, all bedrooms en suite so we jumped at the chance.

Friends 2 has a small business making a high end but not terribly expensive product - think handmade soaps sort of thing. While we were whatsapping arranging the weekend she said ‘who wants me to bring some of my new range, just launched scents x y a etc, think you’ll love them’. We thought she was offering a present. We’ve all bought from her before, happily because her products are gorgeous, so said yes, lovely. We chose various soap, one each - no one wants to be greedy! - she said ‘you sure just the one’. Friend 1 said ‘well I’d love one of the x ones too’ Friend 2 says ‘fab, I’ll bring them’. Conversation moves on and we’ve all very excited and chatty about our meet up.

Fast forward to meet up. I drove and collected friend 3 on the way, we stopped and got wine and crisps, I’d bought friend 1 something interest-related as a thank you, friend 3 also bought a present. We get to Friend 1’s house, all excited and catching up, then friend 2 arrives slightly after us, we’re all chatting away and she grabs a bag and says ‘here are the soaps’. Hands us each a little bag - packaging is really pretty - and inside is a bar of soap and an invoice for £7.50. Friend 1 - the hostess has an invoice for £15.00. Friend 2 has not bought anything. Not wine for sharing or a present for the hostess.

Now to be fair, at no point did Friend 2 say the soaps were a gift. We all misunderstood, assuming she was offering. Maybe we should have asked but how do you ask ‘is this a present or are we paying’! It all feels like a bit of a hard sell now. And I can’t understand her charging Friend 1 at all after getting free accommodation in a house way nicer than anywhere we’ve stayed before. Friend 2 isn’t tight but she is a bit gauche and thoughtless at times, if you didn’t know her well you could think she was being rude. Or I suppose she is being rude but doesn’t realise it and would be mortified to think she was.

sorry this is long, don’t want to get into trouble for drip feeding

So, AIBU?
Yes - you’re entitled and of course you should have expected to pay
No - Friend 2 should have made it clear she was selling the soaps

OP posts:
GreenLeaf25 · 16/03/2025 12:05

Tbh I’d be really pissed off. When we were all presented with the invoices I would have said loudly that I’d cover the host seeing as she’s kindly putting us all up. I appreciate she is running a business but she knew what she was doing by not mentioning money - effectively hoodwinking you into paying. Not the best way to run a business

Soapladies · 16/03/2025 13:00

GreenLeaf25 · 16/03/2025 12:05

Tbh I’d be really pissed off. When we were all presented with the invoices I would have said loudly that I’d cover the host seeing as she’s kindly putting us all up. I appreciate she is running a business but she knew what she was doing by not mentioning money - effectively hoodwinking you into paying. Not the best way to run a business

That didn’t occur to me - I love it! Not sure I’d have been brave enough in the moment though. The really inexplicable thing is that when we stay in an Airbnb we, including Friend 2, always bring wine/snacks/chocolate but she didn’t even bring that this time so it made charging Friend 1 even more odd

OP posts:
feistyoneyouare · 17/03/2025 10:31

Ketchupbroc · 16/03/2025 09:05

So on this discussion site we can’t ask questions? Op doesn’t have to answer but I can ask questions surely?!😂

@Ketchupbroc do you have any intention of being remotely constructive on any of the threads you've been goady on recently?? (And before you accuse me of stalking, your username is distinctive and has come up on a number of threads I've read recently) I'm not quite sure what you're getting out of it. Are you having a boring week or something?

Bubblesgun · 17/03/2025 11:05

Soapladies · 15/03/2025 17:50

We’re a group of four friends who met over twenty years ago through a shared activity. We’ve all moved away since then but try and get together every year or so. We go to various cites and get an Airbnb for a couple of nights. This year an event related to our shared interest took place in Friend 1’s city and she very kindly invited us to stay with her. She’s got a really lovely house, walking distance to the city centre, all bedrooms en suite so we jumped at the chance.

Friends 2 has a small business making a high end but not terribly expensive product - think handmade soaps sort of thing. While we were whatsapping arranging the weekend she said ‘who wants me to bring some of my new range, just launched scents x y a etc, think you’ll love them’. We thought she was offering a present. We’ve all bought from her before, happily because her products are gorgeous, so said yes, lovely. We chose various soap, one each - no one wants to be greedy! - she said ‘you sure just the one’. Friend 1 said ‘well I’d love one of the x ones too’ Friend 2 says ‘fab, I’ll bring them’. Conversation moves on and we’ve all very excited and chatty about our meet up.

Fast forward to meet up. I drove and collected friend 3 on the way, we stopped and got wine and crisps, I’d bought friend 1 something interest-related as a thank you, friend 3 also bought a present. We get to Friend 1’s house, all excited and catching up, then friend 2 arrives slightly after us, we’re all chatting away and she grabs a bag and says ‘here are the soaps’. Hands us each a little bag - packaging is really pretty - and inside is a bar of soap and an invoice for £7.50. Friend 1 - the hostess has an invoice for £15.00. Friend 2 has not bought anything. Not wine for sharing or a present for the hostess.

Now to be fair, at no point did Friend 2 say the soaps were a gift. We all misunderstood, assuming she was offering. Maybe we should have asked but how do you ask ‘is this a present or are we paying’! It all feels like a bit of a hard sell now. And I can’t understand her charging Friend 1 at all after getting free accommodation in a house way nicer than anywhere we’ve stayed before. Friend 2 isn’t tight but she is a bit gauche and thoughtless at times, if you didn’t know her well you could think she was being rude. Or I suppose she is being rude but doesn’t realise it and would be mortified to think she was.

sorry this is long, don’t want to get into trouble for drip feeding

So, AIBU?
Yes - you’re entitled and of course you should have expected to pay
No - Friend 2 should have made it clear she was selling the soaps

What we do in these type of situations in my friend whatsapp group.

  • soap situation: one of us will always say “let us know how much we owe you” which give the person the opportunity to either say “no it s on me, my gift for the week end” or “thanks it £7.50 per soap”
  • then one should say “how about we all club together to get friend 1 a lovely pamper hamper to thank her for hosting us”
  • in the wine / thank you gift situation when you all saw the invoice why didnt you say, “give me your invoice friend 1. Why dont we all share it as a thank you to friend 1”.

given the amount you saved on accomodation i think it wouldnt be much to add £5 each even of you have bought some wine to share.

honestly so many situations would be no big deal if people communicated and talk to each other

Bubblesgun · 17/03/2025 11:08

Pineapplewaves · 15/03/2025 18:01

You assumed the soap was a gift. Friend didn’t say “do you want to buy one of my new soaps?”but neither did you say “how much”, so it’s just a case of bad communication, nobody is right or wrong.

Friend 2 is rude not to give a gift to her hosts (however I usually give a gift on leaving, so the host gets to enjoy it themselves and not just put it into the pot for the other guests to dig into).

Edited

I always bring 2 bottles of wine for exemple and always say “this one is present for you. Keep it. And this one is for us to share”

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