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Flexible working question - not obliged to answer?

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Difficile · 14/03/2025 11:17

I'm looking to apply for flexible working. I know my request will get refused before I've even asked because I've been told it will, but I'd like to put the request in anyway just in case.

One of the questions on the form asks about how my request will impact my work and colleagues. According to ACAS (and the law) it is no longer required to answer this question, so AIBU to write just that in the section?

Something like "I am not obligated to answer this by law", just short and to the point?

OP posts:
RosesAndHellebores · 14/03/2025 18:35

And what is too often forgotten is that the employment relationship is underpinned by the employment contract which states the employee will pay x money for y services rendered. No employee, whether a mither or not, can expect to receive x for less than y, or y delivered in a way that doesn't support the business.

Comefromaway · 14/03/2025 20:32

It is incredibly easy, in many businesses, to come up with a watertight, valid business reason why flexibility should not be granted.

AllyMacbealmyarse · 14/03/2025 21:31

Look @Difficile you clearly don’t care anymore, whatever you say. You say you aren’t obligated to think about how your request will impact your collègues, fine, but if you can make a case how any impact can be mitigated you have a better chance of succeeding. Alternatively just be cynical, miserable nd difficult and waste everyone’s time… you do you!

Negroany · 14/03/2025 23:15

AllThePotatoesAreSinging · 14/03/2025 16:21

it sounds like she’s not going to get what she wants anyway. Legally she still doesn’t have to answer the question, and if she did answer it wouldn’t make a difference because it sounds like her employer will say the work can’t be reorganised within the team. She can appeal though and it’s still on them to say why it can’t be.

They are going to have to reorganise it when she leaves. Just seems bad business to not do that now and keep an experienced staff member.

Edited

There's no legal right to appeal.

Multiplegums · 31/05/2025 08:42

How did your request go Op?

Multiplegums · 31/05/2025 08:43

Difficile · 14/03/2025 12:39

😂😂 Love the character judgments on these threads. I've literally worked in the same place since 2008 and have glowing feedback from supervisors, colleagues and other people I work with, not that I need to justify my behaviour or work ethic to anyone here. I just find it funny. I know I'm bloody good at my job, I just don't want to fill out part of a form when legally the onus is now on the company to look at mitigating factors and not me.

And yet they aren’t bothered about remotely accommodating your requests.

That is quite telling

Renabrook · 31/05/2025 08:51

If somone wants me to consider something they need to tell me in detail why, it is not hard and males the person asking spund like a mature adult and not a 2 year old

Multiplegums · 31/05/2025 08:52

Renabrook · 31/05/2025 08:51

If somone wants me to consider something they need to tell me in detail why, it is not hard and males the person asking spund like a mature adult and not a 2 year old

Exactly

I suspect the lack of an update simply meant that it was indeed unsuccessful

and too right!

Hellofreshh · 31/05/2025 08:54

No don't do that OP. I've had to do this. Take a different approach which is a bit more diplomatic.. explain. Just say that you feel you working this pattern will work well as many prefer nights or weekends ect!

TheCurious0range · 31/05/2025 09:16

I always encourage my team to use that section to show how their flexible working request would benefit their colleagues, eg compressed hours would mean their function is covered beyond the 9-5 and remove the need for colleagues working standard work pattern to accrue toil when dealing with late in the day xyz ( specific emergency protocols), or being in early every morning will allow me to prep abc before this meeting or get ahead on a task that is daily and time bound, relieving pressure on colleagues and ensuring SLMs/KPIs are met more easily, or I can pull and check performance data so we can prioritise tasks as soon as the rest of the team arrive etc etc. Workforce planning boards seem to appreciate people coming from a team approach rather than this is what I want and if I don't get it I'm leaving because my husband is wealthy enough for me not to need this place.

Parker231 · 31/05/2025 09:20

Difficile · 14/03/2025 12:04

The argument is that they're struggling to recruit as it is, my argument is that they'll be even shorter if I leave.

But it's not for me to consider those things, they need to, otherwise why did they remove the requirement from the law?

Why not try and work with them rather than against? If it’s in everyone’s best interest the changes will work but being confrontational isn’t going to help you.

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