People who described themselves as teachers when they’re actually teaching assistance or cover supervisor

[KarlWrenbury]

This is a thing I’ve noticed recently. Is it because they can’t be asked to describe what they really do or is it slightly more disingenuous? For reference no I don’t think it’s a great amazing thing to be a teacher but it’s interesting that they do.

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If they're used to cover teaching presumably they're cover supervising?

When you say 'involved in live marking' - so are the kids. I'm not sure what you're thinking of that suggests they are doing anything particularly unexpected.

And I'm not sure why you're picking holes. It's just a fact that similar things happen in secondary to primary.

If you are a teaching assistant and you are being used as a teacher without being paid at it and there’s one person who’s the idiot here

Incredibly rude and immature.

I also live mark the books. I work in year 6 and I normally work with a group of between 6-10 pupils and live mark the books as we go. I plan and deliver the interventions for the whole class. This can be at the lower end of the scale with children working at KS1 level or with the greater depth children or anything in between. Last week I taught nth term to GD and then did a session on number patterns relating to times tables with the lower end. I agree that not all TAs are capable of this and the SLT in my school know this and use the TAs well and allocate them accordingly. Most now are used as SEN 1-1s, not something I want to do or would be good at so I doubt I will last much longer as the days of the general class TA are numbered. My ideal job would be as a secondary TA specialising in Maths.

Many TAs teach classes during the class teachers PPA.
Many cover supervisors are qualified teachers and do actually teach the work required of them.
what's the problem?

It’s not ‘sweet’. It’s respectful.

If you’re that disconnected from how schools currently operate then you are not in a position to be making any comments on the subject.

Ah , so we’re back to TA’s being stupid . Great!

OP what exactly do you do for work? I hope you're not a teacher yourself you give off an air of both arrogance and ignorance at the day to day running of a school in the UK. If you were a teacher I'd wager you 'd think the TA's work for you and not with you.

I work in a school and the kids refer to tas as teachers and so do the parents.

But true.
Don’t take a job that’s not properly paid. No one needs martyrs.

It’s similar to clinical support workers who describe themselves as nurses. Although they work incredibly hard and think they do the same job if they had to go to court it would be the registered nurse that faced the penalty.

If you are a teaching assistant and you are being used as a teacher without being paid at it and there’s one person who’s the idiot here

Right, so if the TA didn’t step up, the children would be out in a hall with a video, or sent home, or anything other than being in the class learning.

Where we are TAs can be paid more than newly qualified teachers, most TAs have degrees, most have been doing the role for years and enjoy their position. They are the backbone of most schools and the reason your children get to do half the stuff they do.

Onvioulsy OP disagrees. I’m glad I don’t work in a school anymore and left due to the abuse by parents and children alike.

TAs certainly aren’t paid enough for that, and OP has proved that point ten times over.

@Silvertulipsplease tell me you're in the UK and where you are working if your TAs are earning well. I need a raise

For reference no I don’t think it’s a great amazing thing to be a teacher but it’s interesting that they do.
What is it you do @KarlWrenbury what's with all the derision and --thinly veiled- hatred of teaching staff?

I’ve TA’d for colleagues and I’ve also covered A LOT of lessons under the ironically named policy of ‘rarely cover’ (basically means you can be asked to cover lessons when there aren’t any cover supervisors available)

My job title as per my contract is still ‘teacher of…’ so that’s what I tell people I am. Surely your job is what you have on your contract/ what you are paid to do?

Agree with the OP.

Also healthcare assistants who call themselves nurses. Sorry, but no, you're not.