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To have a second elective c-section?

66 replies

CSectionUncertainty · 11/03/2025 15:58

I had my first child by elective c-section 2.5 years ago because he was breach. It was a good experience overall and although it did take 6 weeks to fully recover, it wasn’t too bad during that time. I got to go home the next day, I managed to breastfeed well, baby did well, etc. I definitely had a better experience than my friends who had difficult vaginal births that ended in forceps or emergency c-sections (at least half of my friends had this experience).

Im now in third trimester with my next baby and have been offered an elective c-section again, purely due to the fact that I had one previously. However I’ve had a late scan and my baby is a good size and in the perfect position for vaginal delivery. I was all set for another c-section but baby’s position plus the fact that recovery will be more difficult with a toddler is making me second-guess things. My trust’s c-section rate for attempted vaginal delivery is 30% so seems quite a high risk of emergency c-section if I did try, plus who knows whatever other complications. Not sure if I’m over-thinking it!

AIBU to go for the elective c-section again?

OP posts:
LilacPony · 12/03/2025 02:06

I think what I found the hardest was that both planned c-section and vbac have so many negatives each, and the thought of choosing which one I was more prepared to chance it with, I just couldn’t work that out in my head. I found it unhelpful speaking to any midwife as they all had an air of “why wouldn’t you try vbac”. Admittedly my mind always came back to how a planned c-section is calm & controlled.

CandidRaven · 12/03/2025 08:44

I've had everything you can have, labour starting naturally, induction and my last which was a c-section, out of all them I'd have chosen natural labour but if that's not possible I would choose a c-section

CSectionUncertainty · 12/03/2025 22:43

JandamiHash · 11/03/2025 19:08

Go for it OP! I’m not convinced vaginal birth is safer - if women got better care with more highly trained people and didn’t experience discrimination it would be different, but it’s not

I know, it’s so upsetting that it’s not the reality.

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CSectionUncertainty · 12/03/2025 22:45

LilacPony · 12/03/2025 01:49

I was in your shoes. Had an elective for a breach. Pregnant again and I just couldn’t decide what to do, the decision consumed me. My hospital was 30% success for vbac, the odds just didn’t seem in my favour. It got to 35 weeks and they wanted to know my decision, I still hadn’t decided when suddenly I just went in to labour. I went with it and feel incredibly lucky to have had a really successful vbac. Up and about an hour later, the best recovery I could hope for. I feel so so lucky and still can’t get over the fact it actually happened and that I haven’t had to recover from a c-section.
A midwife did say to me to not let the stats of 30% come in to the decision making, as my previous need for a c-section was to do with the babies position. Had it been to do with my body not progressing in labour (basically an issue to do with me, not the babies position) the need for repeat c-section would be higher. I found a university study online where you could input your information and that gave me a vbac success rate of 90% instead. So I do think there’s some truth in not putting yourself in the 30% success bracket, as everyone has an individual story & need and we’re not all “30%”.
i would always say go with your gut. Unfortunately for me, I just could never work out what my gut was telling me. So when my body went in to labour, I accepted and went with it. I honestly don’t know what I would have decided otherwise.

Yes part of me hopes this happens to force my hand, but then maybe I wouldn’t be as lucky as you were. Very envious of your experience but glad it went so well for you!

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LilacPony · 13/03/2025 03:50

CSectionUncertainty · 12/03/2025 22:45

Yes part of me hopes this happens to force my hand, but then maybe I wouldn’t be as lucky as you were. Very envious of your experience but glad it went so well for you!

I wish you the absolute best of luck. I’m so glad my hand was forced before I could make a decision because it’s so hard to decide. Go with your gut, always.

Whatzehellizdiss · 13/03/2025 04:03

crocheteveryday · 11/03/2025 16:14

I've said you are not being unreasonable because you need to do what you feel comfortable with, OP. Either option has risks and benefits. You will get wildly different answers if you ask people what they think you should do because we will all be influenced by our own experiences.

I would never opt for abdominal surgery unless there was a clear medical need. But I say that as someone who had two straight forward vaginal births (I did tear but healed quickly with no further complications). A close friend of mine had a traumatic vaginal birth with her first baby and took a long time to heal. She chose to have a c section with her second simply because she didn't want to go through that again. She has said she would opt for another c section if she had a third. There is no one correct answer here.

Yes this. Whatever you feel comfortable with,

Similar to crochet I would never opt for a section unless it was medically needed..... but I had easy births with minimum tears and I'm frightened of the thought of surgery 😅

My sister is having her first baby by elective c section in a few weeks, she's weighed up the pro's and cons and gone for what she feels will work best for her and her baby

There's risks to either isn't there, do what you feel is best for you and baby

Zanatdy · 13/03/2025 05:28

My friend in same situation chose an elective. They said her womb could be odd shape which meant she got to almost fully dilated and then had the section. She didn’t regret her decision. I think i’d have tried for a VBAC. I know someone who had 2 x elective, then 2 x VBAC.

JC89 · 13/03/2025 05:40

It is entirely up to you, where I was if you go for vbac they treat it as higher risk and offer continuous monitoring, they want to know as soon as possible if baby is in distress in case it's the start of scar rupture - do they do that where you are? This was what they told me when I was considering vbac, in the end dc2 was breech just like dc1 so elcs it was!

Hattie907 · 13/03/2025 06:36

I’d have an elective and I speak as someone who will be after an EMCS with my first so I’ve done all the weighing things up which you’re currently doing. Thought it might be helpful to share my thinking when making my decision. We might share some views but we might differ in them too.

A big thing for me was the psychological impact of another EMCS. While I was so relieved to have my healthy DC here safely, I really struggled with some disappointment too tbh. (I know it was irrational.) But I know I would feel this way again, and perhaps even more so, if I go through a long labour for a second time for it to “fail to progress”. I’d beat myself up if I didn’t go with my head which told me to have the elective. I’d also resent all the wasted prep for a vaginal birth (hypnobirthing, perineal massage etc) and being even more knackered with a toddler at home as well as a newborn this time round. It was hard enough with just the newborn first time, after days of induction before even going into (a long) labour. This “failure to progress” could happen again, esp given my body hasn’t birthed vaginally before and I didn’t progress much in terms of dilation.

This was a huge one for me: my DC was in distress (not massively so) in labour which triggered the EMCS and I think if this happened again after I had the choice to get an elective and minimise it from happening, I’d also struggle with this too. Just sharing a personal view there. Not saying everyone should feel the same way.

Perhaps this is just within my circle of friends and family, but my husband and I seem to have a much better sex life than most others. This sadly hasn’t been the case for many I know who had a vaginal birth, even those without bad tears and episiotomies etc - but no doubt there are many women who quickly recovered and that aspect hasn’t been a problem in the slightest too. I’ve had zero problems with my pelvic floor too, luckily.

I found recovery after an emergency CS fine with hindsight (obviously had some pain - to be expected) so I’m really hoping it’s easier again after an elective, which I’ve been told is the case.

I managed to breastfeed without issues so wouldn’t pay too much attention when people say “Your milk might not come in/you might have supply issues”. It is more likely but it’s not something I’m worrying about. I had a relatively good experience with breastfeeding also, compared to friends and family who had vaginal births.

Finally, I’m personally quite scared of a rupture tbh. I know it’s so unlikely statistically and it really shouldn’t put you off but I’m not sure the worry about this happening in the run up to birth or during labour would help ME personally with producing oxytocin! So that was also on my list of reasons for the elective.

Of course I also had some reasons to try for a vaginal birth but it was things like “quick recovery” (not necessarily) and “to experience a vaginal birth” (not that important in the grand scheme of things, to me at least). There were also things like “less chance of certain complications” (but all kinds of birth come with risks of complications).

It was a hard decision initially but then I had this absolute certainty about the elective thankfully so no longer had it playing on my mind. Good luck.

Hattie907 · 13/03/2025 06:40

CSectionUncertainty · 12/03/2025 22:45

Yes part of me hopes this happens to force my hand, but then maybe I wouldn’t be as lucky as you were. Very envious of your experience but glad it went so well for you!

This is true OP. If you had an elective purely due to position, a VBAC might go very well for you!

jeaux90 · 13/03/2025 07:24

To think pelvic floor exercises won't help http://www.mumsnet.com/Talk/amiibeingunreasonable/5293168-to-think-pelvic-floor-exercises-wont-help

I know our bodies are amazing but equally women's health issues are so minimised as a consequence good example in the thread.

C section every time for me.

aCatCalledFawkes · 13/03/2025 07:39

My first baby was an elective section due to breech presentation.

When I was pregnant with my son, I was sure it would be another section but he was also in a perfect position. I had a section booked at 41wks but went in to labour on my due date. i had a really great natural birth, I recovered really quickly. Driving asap and no stitches or wound to worry about. I’m not sure how I would have felt if it had been an emergency sector.

CSectionUncertainty · 13/03/2025 07:41

@aCatCalledFawkes why was the section booked in for 41 weeks? In my trust they try to book it in for some time during the 39th week. Was that specifically so you could try for a VBAC? It’s stories of recoveries like yours that make the VBAC so tempting!

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aCatCalledFawkes · 13/03/2025 07:51

CSectionUncertainty · 13/03/2025 07:41

@aCatCalledFawkes why was the section booked in for 41 weeks? In my trust they try to book it in for some time during the 39th week. Was that specifically so you could try for a VBAC? It’s stories of recoveries like yours that make the VBAC so tempting!

Yes, I was so undecided. If I didn’t go in to labour it was an induction (this was 14yrs ago) which I didn’t want.
I felt pressured at the time, hospitals wanted women to have natural births, it’s not just the cost of a section but the recovery is faster.
The consultant agreed I could have a later section if I didn’t go in to labour.

I got to hospital 8cm dilated and he was out in three hours. I only had gas and air as I was far to gone at that point and the last thing I wanted was more needles in me.

My oldest was delivered at 39eks via elective section which is definitely the planned window for an elective section as they don’t want you going in to labour at all.

Hattie907 · 13/03/2025 09:20

CSectionUncertainty · 13/03/2025 07:41

@aCatCalledFawkes why was the section booked in for 41 weeks? In my trust they try to book it in for some time during the 39th week. Was that specifically so you could try for a VBAC? It’s stories of recoveries like yours that make the VBAC so tempting!

Sorry if you’ve said but I’d ask at what gestation they wouldn’t want you to go over/to induce because I know the threshold for induction after a CS is lower to minimise rupture. You may find yourself going over if you didn’t have a vaginal birth before - maybe not of course too!

That was another factor for me actually which I forgot about. They told me they’d induce by a certain point and with both pregnancies I didn’t agree with the due date - which was a at least a week earlier than my due date according to my cycle on both occasions so I thought there was no (or rather little) chance of spontaneous labour. My body just wasn’t ready to give birth last time at 39 weeks hence it failed. All the women in my family go overdue by a couple of weeks and inductions are pretty much always the case for us.

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