To think that cyclists shouldn’t be allowed on dual carriageways

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Considering they’re not allowed on motorways!

There’s one dual carriageway in particular near us where cyclists on it are not only dicing with death re: their only lives, they’re also putting motorists at risk too. It’s a notoriously dangerous road - 60mph with very sharp bends, hill sections and narrow lanes. It’s like a race track. There have been many serious crashes and fatalities over the years (sadly including one involving a family member) - I genuinely can’t understand how a cyclist thinks it’s safe or appropriate to drive on a road like this, especially considering there’s a pavement (always empty, no pedestrians) that they could easily ride on. There simply isn’t enough room for cars to safely pass them!

If they're clearly leisure cyclists, then probably to get to the stunning countryside in the first place, no?

Having driven in the Netherlands, you don't need data. It's evident at first sight. Similarly, Belgium.

64% of the Dutch population cycle at least once a week. By contrast 15% of English people cycle once a month. Seeing the world from the perspective of a bicycle makes one a better driver. That's why some lorry training schemes include time riding a static bike at the roadside so that prospective lorry drivers can properly empathise with vulnerable road users.

That’s a long winded way of saying no. Fortunately @DdraigGoch does have some interesting info!

That said I do remember being on a motorway (heading back from NL, I think that the incident happened in Belgium) when a car cut across multiple lanes to avoid missing an exit. But in general, standards are higher.

No silly, they are all commuting according to pp who know better than me.

Seriously if they were peddling towards the countryside, or at rush hour heading to work I wouldn't be baffled..

Not data but having done cycling on holiday in a few European countries whenever a driver has been a problem they've always had British plates.